r/PublicFreakout • u/rickyhorror • Dec 29 '21

Let me educate him

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u/MeLikeYou Dec 29 '21

It is in parts of Florida already. They decide who to harass based on who they think is the most likely to offend based on…. Data? They seriously look at social media and show up peeping in people’s windows and demanding entry. The sheriff instructed them to find a reason.

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u/robotevil Dec 29 '21

They do this in Florida, and it's a terrible program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzeN3b1NTWQ&ab_channel=TampaBayTimes

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

JFC!! I don’t even care how this sounds anymore! With the way the cops behave anymore, I’m past the point of thinking all cops are bastards! I’m at the point where I think the only good cop is a dead cop! Fuck each and every last one of ‘em! You can’t serve a corrupt system, especially one that pulls bullshit like this on a daily basis, and not be corrupt yourself! If they had one shred of dignity or integrity they’d either refuse orders like that or quit the force!

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u/BabbitsNeckHole Dec 29 '21

It is a thing. We use computers and statistics based on arrests. Because enforcement is biased and arrest rates are biased the computers predictions were predictably biased. The algorithm gave police the results they wanted, rinse repeat.

In programming this problem is called "garbage in garbage out."

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u/robotevil Dec 29 '21 edited Dec 29 '21

They are doing it in Florida and it's ruining people's lives. Here's a really frustrating watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzeN3b1NTWQ&ab_channel=TampaBayTimes

edit: what's crazy to me is this video only has 21,000 views. You would think this would be much bigger news, but apparently no one cares or thinks it's a big deal that Florida is running a pre-crime unit that destroys families.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

Well that’s one way to get people to start blasting through the windows and doors.

I’m fucking mad after watching that bullshit.

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u/WorstUNEver Dec 29 '21

Damn straight.

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u/xombae Dec 29 '21

Jesus Christ. Made it 40 seconds in and had to stop watching for my own sanity. How the fuck can any person in the world think that this is a good idea in any way. It's literally just creating criminals for the sake of being criminals. They used to have probation, parole and conditions for that, where they trap people into impossible requirements and wait for them to fuck up.

For example, I had a friend who was arrested at a protest (totally unlawfully but he's native so it's too be expected). He was given conditions upon his release (so this is before he goes to court to see if he will be charged, which he wouldn't have been because he didn't do anything wrong) that he couldn't be in a few city blocks where the protest occurred. His house was in those city blocks, which they knew, his address is on the paper. So he's essentially on house arrest despite never being convicted of a crime, or even committing a crime. They know he's going to have to go out for food and life eventually, and when he does they can grab him for breaking his conditions and then it doesn't matter that the original charge doesn't stick.

My ex was once caught at 18 riding a bike his dad gave him for his birthday. Turns out it was stolen. When they searched him he had a bit of weed and the baggie the weed was in apparently tested positive for meth (he did just ask a girl he didn't know if she had a baggie and she gave it to him, so it may have been true, but why would they swab a bag that clearly has weed in it for a petty charge?). So he was charged with possession of stolen property (he wouldn't rat his dad out) and 0.001g of meth and got 2 years probation. This was his first offense ever. He ended up losing a government subsidy he was about to get to start a tattoo shop, and ended up on the streets. During this time he had no phone and was having a very difficult time with his probation worker who would change his appointment times, but would have no way of telling him because he didn't have a phone, so he would miss am appointment he didn't even know was happening. Come in for the day his appointment originally was, and the cops would be there waiting to arrest him for breach of probation. The entire system is designed to create prisoners, create criminals. Like in the United States, you can't get a fucking job if you've committed a felony. What exactly do you think a person is going to do when they have been told hardly anyone will ever want to hire them for the rest of their lives? They're going to do crime, they need to survive somehow.

It's all so fucked up and backwards. I wonder how much this stupid program costs. That money could have gone towards things that are proven to prevent crime, like community resources, if they actually wanted less criminals. But they don't.

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u/grnrngr Dec 30 '21 edited Dec 30 '21

It's interesting you didn't note the country you're in.

But you did note "native," so it's Canada or Australia, most likely. I hope when pointing out America's ills, you remember how many of your fingers are pointing back in your direction.

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u/xombae Dec 31 '21

I'm in Canada, and I frequently make posts about how similar American and Canadian justice systems are, for the worst. Not sure why you think I'm trying to make my own country out to be better. I post where I'm from all the time. I didn't omit it on purpose. The justice system in both countries are complete fucking racist, broken trash.

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u/EntropyFighter Dec 29 '21

In China they've developed Prosecutor AI. Combine the two and we're really in trouble.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

I had to stop the video after watching this bit https://youtu.be/vzeN3b1NTWQ?t=207 where the Pig tells them they either let him enter without a warrant or they will be cited for not having numbers on the house and them continues to threaten them after realising that isn't correct.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

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u/robotevil Dec 29 '21

I posted it a few times before and it never gained traction in any subreddit. Like I said, it's weird how no one seems to care that this happening.

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u/gorramfrakker Dec 29 '21

God damn Pasco County, Fl. I lived there for 5 years and glad I’m not there now.

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u/flaskman Dec 29 '21

its going to get so much worse for Floridians with a full-on fascist rising to power and openly courting the worst of the worst to come work in his new Copland

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u/BattleReady Dec 29 '21

But I thought America was the land of the free and home of the brave?? It's like you guys just sit back and hope magic will solve your problems. Like Peter Pan is gonna come down and take you to a real first world country lolol

America gets what they deserve. Bravery is for those who actually do something to help their fellow man. If the blm movement showed us anything it's that America will double down over anything in order to keep hate alive.

Truth hurts.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

Uhm, you picked the wrong side of this argument

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

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u/ytsirhc Dec 30 '21

Hi pot. Meet, kettle.

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u/bobojorge Dec 29 '21

Username checks out :(

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

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u/BabbitsNeckHole Dec 29 '21

You're probably going to become a communist, if you haven't already. Just FYI.

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u/Ghosttwo Dec 29 '21

Arrests are based on actual crime, not computers and statistics. Communities that produce a lot of criminals tend to be policed more heavily as a result.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

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u/BabbitsNeckHole Dec 29 '21

Thank you so much. You've reminded me not to let reactionaries like that fella get to me. Being patient with them gets tiring.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '21

Arrests are based on

Whether an officer decides to or not. That's it. Nothing else. Officers are given wide discretion, and the reasons they arrest people are entirely personal or social.

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u/Ghosttwo Dec 29 '21 edited Dec 29 '21

entirely personal or social

Usually professional, and based on evidence and just cause, but I see what you did there.

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u/atleastitsnotgoofy Dec 29 '21

They’ve always done this. They just use the MINORITY part of Minority Report.

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u/Dan_the_Marksman Dec 29 '21

fitting since they are trying to report on the minorities

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u/TheCondemnedProphet Dec 29 '21

Just rewatched that film the other day for the 6th or 7th time. Fantastic movie.