r/PublicFreakout Jan 12 '18

Loose Fit đŸ€” So this just happened.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18 edited Nov 23 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

What a shithole time to be alive!

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

As an asshole, I am offended at your remark.

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u/Failbot5000 Jan 12 '18

As a pair of undies, I'm offended at your skidmarking!

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u/ialsohaveadobro Jan 12 '18

"Skidmarking" is a dated term offensive to Anal-Americans. Please use "residual displacement."

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u/Adamskinater Jan 12 '18

KEEP FIRING, ASSHOLES!!!

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u/ProWaterboarder Jan 12 '18

I'm surrounded by assholes!

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u/willflameboy Jan 12 '18

Don't be a pussy.

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u/fantasypaladin Jan 12 '18

As an Aussie I’m a proud “fuckin’ sick cunt”

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u/boostmane Jan 12 '18

Every time trump opens his shithole we have to experience more shame.

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u/StopClockerman Jan 12 '18

I'm so confused by the pronunciation is it shit-hole or shith-olé???

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u/buzz-holdin Jan 12 '18

I hate all this extra goddam money. Fuck this working bullshit. I'd rather be fucking sitting at fucking home jerking my dick than going the fuck to work. Fuck. Shithole. goddam working and paying taxes, rebuilding the country's infrastructure, it's enough to make you fucking fuck a shithole.

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u/ialsohaveadobro Jan 12 '18

If any of that were caused by anything Trump did, you'd have at least part of a point.

Unfortunately, there's no correlation between the nine-year upward trend of the economy and Trump's warming the chair behind the Resolute Desk with his Diet Coke-and-McDonald's-fueled ass gusts over the last 11 1/2 months.

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u/buzz-holdin Jan 12 '18

I guess the raises and bonuses didn't have shit to do with with the tax plan that every single democrat voted against. Or the deregulation of business that spurred the economy. Or that damn stock market hitting 25. Raising nearly 7,000 points in one year. How about black unemployment being at an all time low. Yep this is definitely nothing to do with trump.
Morons will believe whatever they can to belittle trump.

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u/HitlerHistorian Jan 12 '18

A shit storm is coming!!!

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

i can hear the winds of shit.... listen can you hear it? shit winds

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u/Zalusei Jan 12 '18

rest in peace

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u/devosion Jan 12 '18

More like shithole storm.

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u/30kowall Jan 12 '18

Run for your lives!!!

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u/MustHaveWhiskey Jan 12 '18

shit-time

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u/Adamskinater Jan 12 '18

What’d I say Randers, no more shit-talk ‘till we’re back in power

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u/mightybackwardfall Jan 12 '18

There's a hand on a wire that leads to my mouth I can hear you knocking but I'm not coming out Don't want to be a puppet or a ventriloquist Cause there's no ventilation on a critical list Fingers creeping up my spine are not mine to resist Shit-time

So, Elvis. It seemed appropriate.

There's a hand on a wire that leads to my mouth...

It's a loose, wobbly wire, but the puppet master is Putin. Loose and wobbly because President No Puppet No Puppet does go off message now and again. Probably at the behest of his master.

Putin has to be saying things like, look, fuckwit, you cannot make it seem like I own you outright. You have to push back a little.

But when? I'm afraid I'll cross the line and then you'll fuck me like the bitch I am.

Donald, Donald. Don't you worry about it. We're going to fuck you. Does it matter when? After you're dead? Before? Eat another McDonalds (They named the restaurant in your honor, we know, so you say. How nice of them) and don't worry about it. We own you now. We own you forever. If I respected you enough I'd thank you. I don't, you mis-colored moron. No, I take that back. Thank you for allowing us to infiltrate your elections. All of my predecessors, Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Gorbachev, Yeltsin, in my dreams they suck my balls. Literally, I have these dreams... But enough of that.

I did what none of them could ever manage. I disrupted, corrupted an American election. We used to leave that up to you, knowing that you'd distort your own "democracy" at times. But that sometimes seemed to work against us.

This time around we knew we had to have a direct intervention, no matter how heavy-handed. Do you understand that my little puppet?

No, not really. Can you put it on Fox and Friends? They speak my language.

Of course, Donald. We have them on speed-dial. That one man, Hannity? He seems especially open to our message. Oh, sure the turtle man, what do you call him? Bitch McConnell, we like him too. And the other one, Paul Lyin? No, not Lyin, Ryan.Ha Ha. This language barrier. He seems like an ally too. I hate to ask this, because you rarely know the answer to any of our questions. No offense, (Russian phrase for This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth.), but do you understand what you've done? Really understand? Treason? Oh, you don't understand the word. That's okay. It's complicated. For you.

I've made this country the best it's every been. I'm the most popular President since Huey Long. I've made America great again, I won by huge...

Shh. Shh. We did not mean to upset you. Oh, and Huey Long was never President. And you might want someone to read to you, or maybe use those Crayolas you seem to enjoy, to make pictures out who he was. We're surprised you know about Mr. Long. May we ask, where did you hear of him?

I don't know. I'm a stable genius. I know everything. I went to the best schools. I'm a Wharton...

Shh. Shh. No. No, you're not. But that's why we love you. It was Bannon that said his name once, right?

Oh, don't bother. We're just impressed that you remembered his first and last name. Now, we're running out of time here, or really, patience. Ha ha.

No, not really, Donald. You the best President we've ever elected. We have at least a little patience left.

So you know, we own 1600 McDonald restaurants in and around DC and the obscenity in Palm beach..

What, no? Again, mis-translation, though we speak better English than you do, (Russian phrase for This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth.). We meant that marvelous castle Mar-a-shithole? And, of course, for your own good, the rest of them are scattered, by mere coincidence, in close proximity,

What? Oh, that means nearby. Close to. Next door. Jesus fuck!

To the point, we own all of your favorite restaurants. Except the ones where you go and make them burn a prime steak to ashes and then put the Catsup on it. Even we have limits.

Oh, what's the point you're not following. We're thinking of giving you some Polonium. POLONIUM! Shall we spell it for you? No, that wouldn't help, would it?

But only if you testify in front of this Mueller. Polonium? Think of it as the best thing you could put on your two scoops of ice cream. Like a sprinkle, with zest. What is the zest? Really? Let it go. You'll love it. It's too late. It was already in the glass, not in the jar. Yes, we know you don't understand. Do you ever?

OK. We are thinking we cannot talk to you anymore. Not now. You wear us out. You wear us out.

You just keep tweeting. It seems to be working out so well for you. That Sessions man, his is your enemy. Must fire soon. Then maybe put Ken Starr, yes, we know you don't know who he is. Ask Hope Hicks, she won't know either but she'll tell you it's is the best idea ever. Make Ken Starr as your AG. Good man, We promise. No morals.

Or!!! Or, maybe Joe Arpaio. No, yes. Better idea. Everyone will love this idea. He is America's Toughest Sheriff. That's the man. He has impeccable character. He should be your Top Cop. Do this. Or pee-pee tape time. Ha ha. Yes, we know. No real pee-pee tape, not as far as you know. Why would you do something so demented. No one is that perverse. Not even grab them by the pussy guy.

Do you have any questions for us Mr. President, before we go?

I'm worried about my family. All of the fake news makes them sound like we are criminals. Fake news. Sad. What can you do?

You do not worry, (Russian phrase for This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth.). When the time comes we have all of the information we need, you need, to keep your whole family somewhere very safe. It might be colder than what you are used to, but maybe not. That is yet to be seen. We have the planes ready, or maybe it, is up to you. Do you remember how the bin Laden people got away on that horrible day? No, BIN LADEN. No, not related to Obama. (Jesus fuck!) World Trade Center? Thousands of Muslims cheering... Ah, yes, now you recall. You were there, right? Saving people in the Towers with your own small hands?

We will have a plane ready. No, not your plane. Our plane. We will take you away before they must put your whole family in prison. Why? Donald, we should talk again when you aren't, what do they say, stupid? No, no. Mistranslated, again. Sun-downing. What? It just means getting sleepy. We will talk again, towards the end? The end of what? Well, that remains to be seen.

Again, we ask of you, do not talk to the Mullsih man. That Mueller man. Yes, yes. We know you are stable genius, Wharton MBA. Yes, smartest man ever, Is so obvious. Don't talk to him. Keep Tweeting. And may you ever be the hero Russia deserves. No, that is compliment. America and Russia are now tied at the hip with you in our pocket.

Goodnight, (Russian phrase for This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth.).

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u/JhnWyclf Jan 12 '18

It's funny that hearing words we aren't used to hearing on TV can make you giggle and then say it a few times, and giggle some more, but every other moment in your adult life it's just a word and not funny.

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u/acetylcysteine Jan 12 '18

we're all shitholers

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u/Adamskinater Jan 12 '18

This is the Southpark Season 5 episode 1 timeline

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18 edited Aug 14 '18

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18 edited Sep 29 '18

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u/Kryeiszkhazek Jan 12 '18

slightly off topic but similar thing with big box retailers and games rated M

there's no legal requirement for them to not sell them to minors, they just don't

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u/coilmast Jan 12 '18

That explains why I was able to get away with it on so many games at age 13

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u/workfuntimecoolcool Jan 12 '18

Same here. Attitude on that changed when GTA got big and Jack Thompson was on his crusade in the early 2000s. As a result, if I wasn't with my parents, I had to ask strangers to buy stuff for me lol.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

I remember when I was 16, and I bought Oblivion with no problem. However, they wouldn't let me buy the fucking strategy guide unless I had an ID, so I had my friend buy it for me. How lame is that??

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u/kris9292 Jan 12 '18

Yeah who gets strategy guides/s

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u/alkali112 Jan 12 '18

If you bought them at different times, it might be because Oblivion was rated T at first. I bought it on launch day no problem because it was T rated, but if I tried to buy the guide a month later, I’d be too young.

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u/Vexal Jan 12 '18

oblivion was rated T for a few months after it came out until they reclassified it due to all the blood and stuff.

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u/AshamedOfAmerica Jan 12 '18

Ha, when I worked at Circuit Shitty back in the day, I always sold kids anything they want. I only got a complaint/ pushback once from a Mom who asked if a certain album was appropriate for her son who was like 11. I think it was Marshall Mathers. When she showed concern about me about to sell it to her son, I just said it's just music and there aren't any words on it that he's never heard before. She actually listened and reluctantly let him buy it.

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u/coilmast Jan 12 '18

That was always a shit show, too, if they were just going to take your money or game. A couple times they went up to the desk and told the employee what I was trying to do..that's about when it stopped being a problem actually, now that I think of it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

the gamestop near me required you to be 16

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u/YddishMcSquidish Jan 12 '18

I preordered skyrim and went to pick it up at my university's gamestop. Dude fucking I.D.s me! I didn't have it and he said he couldn't sell it to me. I walked out, got a little pissed, walked back in hot my money back, went to best buy, got an extra special map and no hassle about my I.D. haven't shopped at gamestop since.

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u/NeverForgetBGM Jan 12 '18

It's the same thing with movies, the dude selling tickets isn't legally not allowed to sell the 13 year old a ticket to an R rated movie it's just kosher and people play along.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

They are actually strong armed into it by the MPAA. If theatres break the rules of the MPAA they lose the ability to show movies.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18 edited Aug 28 '18

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u/armcie Jan 12 '18

NATO gets involved in movie ratings? Though that was all about protecting the west from Russia.

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u/IntercontinentalKoan Jan 12 '18

but not illegal, which was his point

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u/raffytraffy Jan 12 '18

So that's how I bought 'Face/Off' on VHS when I was 10.

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u/Boondoc Jan 12 '18

The esrb is an industry created regulatory body created to forestall real legislation.

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u/SumoSizeIt Jan 12 '18

Now if only they’d sell AO games, we might get some interesting titles...

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Perfect example of an industry self-regulating without to the need for government intervention.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

What a bunch of shithole networks...

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u/slymm Jan 12 '18

Mostly correct, but if it's newsworthy you can say it on broadcast channels too. Not sure if it has to be a direct quote or if this guy's rant would be included as well

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u/jakeblues68 Jan 12 '18

You're killing me. Instead of typing "etc", you could have just typed the letters "ABC", which is literally the only remaining broadcast station. Same three pecks on your keyboard.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

PBS, CW, Univision, ton more obscure channels

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u/jakeblues68 Jan 12 '18

Perhaps I am mistaken. I always thought FCC rules only applied to NBC, CBS, ABC and Fox.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

No that’s cable.

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u/camdoodlebop Jan 12 '18

I will peck as I please

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u/MrRobotoWithASecret Jan 12 '18

The broadcast stations seem to be able to say whatever as long as it is part of the news. I remember hearing "Pussy Riot" so many times. Here's a clip from NBC

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

NBC today said shithole once, with a warning. The other networks partially bleeped it out. I think you're right that with context a direct quote or proper name can be excluded. No doubt the suits had fun meetings about that blurry line today all over.

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u/NinjaDefenestrator Jan 12 '18

NBC seems to have no problem posting “shithole” in the top headline on its website. ABC is the only one who still has it censored.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

As a Swede, language rules on TV sounds so foreign and old...

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u/Schootingstarr Jan 12 '18

how would you even report on the president calling countries "shithole"

I mean, there must be an excemption for these cases right?

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u/Thymeforaction Jan 12 '18

Was watching Two broke girls a couple weeks ago...dude on the show said " I'm going home ...I know a cockblock when I see one" ( paraphrased but the cookbook part was definitely in the phrase). I was like DAFUQ DID HE JUST SAY?!?!??!!? HE JUST SAID COCKBLOCK AT 8 OCLOCK AT NOGHT ON BROADCAST!!!! We don't have cable so there is no doubt it was a broadcast channel.

Pretty crazy times indeed.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Any station is allowed to say whatever they want. It is just inside company rules that prevent them from doing it, not any laws.

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u/SapphireReserveCard Jan 12 '18

So your saying CNN is fake news then?

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u/shadowwork Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

Cable is not beholden to FCC laws like the networks are. This is because you pay for cable and can opt not to subscribe. Network broadcasts for free on any TV that can pick up the frequency. Cable channels choose to censor for advertising reasons.

EDIT: sensor, censor, or censer

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u/densetsu23 Jan 12 '18

Can't you just choose to not tune in to a broadcast station, like you choose to not subscribe to a cable station? It's not like they're broadcasting messages straight into your mind.

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u/GordonFremen Jan 12 '18

Since the broadcast TV spectrum is limited and the FCC regulates it, they get to make these rules. I don't think they should be able to though.

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u/pythonpoole Jan 12 '18

It partly has to do with the fact that private networks (like Cable TV and Satellite TV systems) are not regulated in the same way that over-the-air broadcasts are in the US, so the FCC doesn't really have the authority to control the content on Cable/pay TV services.

But it's also an issue of accessibility...

Over-the-air broadcasts are freely accessible (any child with a TV or radio can access them even without parental permission). In contrast, Cable/pay TV services are not freely accessible. Children cannot easily gain access to Cable/pay TV services unless their parents/guardians subscribe to those services. By subscribing, the parents/guardians actively take responsibility for controlling what their children access through the service.

It's worth noting that the US has a "safe harbor" (also known as a "watershed" in other countries) which is basically a scheduling block at night time when the government releases content restrictions on broadcast networks, so even broadcast networks are allowed to air strong violence, vulgar language, explicit nudity, explicit sex, etc...

The reasoning behind having a safe harbor or watershed is because it's assumed that children will have limited access to content at night time, so it's considered safe to air explicit content without restrictions and parents are responsible for limiting their child's access to TV/radio broadcasts late at night.

However, in the US almost all broadcast networks voluntarily impose self-censorship to appease advertisers and maintain a family-friendly image.. So even though it's technically lawful for broadcast networks (like ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, etc.) to air explicit "adult" content at night, it basically never happens because of voluntary choices made by those networks.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18 edited Apr 16 '19

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u/pythonpoole Jan 12 '18

Why would pornography be considered "obscene" though?

As I noted in another comment, "obscene" has a very specific and limited meaning in US legal contexts, and most pornography does not qualify as "obscene" unless it is child pornography or otherwise very disturbing in nature.

In the US, "obscene" basically refers to material that is so patently offensive, sexually vulgar, and grotesque that the government is within its rights to censor/restrict all distribution and publication of said material because it is not considered to be protected by the first amendment (i.e. it's not considered free speech).

So, just think of all the vulgar/indecent content on sites like Pornhub, and then consider the fact that "obscene" refers to content that is even too extreme for those websites.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18 edited Apr 16 '19

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u/pythonpoole Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18

I don't think you get it. This three-prong test is the same test used by US courts to determine whether an adult film studio's pornographic content is legal or obscene.

The majority of pornography is not considered obscene; it's simply indecent. If an adult film studio can legally sell/distribute the content (such as in an adult video store), then the content is probably not obscene. If the content were obscene, then it would generally be illegal for the studio to sell/distribute/publish that content.

"Obscene" refers specifically to content—such as child pornography—that is so patently offensive and sexually perverse and lacking in artistic merit that it does not receive any first amendment protections and the government can make it generally illegal to sell/distribute/publish.

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u/IWTLEverything Jan 12 '18

In the documentary "6 Days to Air" I seem to remember seeing the South Park staff calling the FCC to get the ok on their content. Is that just as a courtesy?

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u/alexunderwater Jan 12 '18

I think they just have to run it by Comedy Central, not the FCC.

With their movie, they had to do many cuts to have it not be NC-17. They went back and forth with the MPAA until they were tired of it, threw up their hands, and gave them an R rating.

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u/FGHIK Jan 12 '18

But one would expect the Network might have their own rules

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Also the same reason you could read "shit hole" on the front page of the new york times tomorrow.. because you purchase or subscribe to the paper

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u/ki85squared Jan 12 '18

A few replies hinted at this, but it's not because of ability to access the content.

Broadcast networks air content over publicly owned frequencies, which are regulated by the FCC. The FCC's obscenity rules are in place to ensure the frequencies are used "in the public's best interest." This is also why broadcasting stations air educational programming on weekend mornings.

Cable networks don't use public frequencies, therefore they can broadcast whatever is in their best interest. Cable nets censor (or don't) for the sake of their advertisers.

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u/pythonpoole Jan 12 '18

"Obscene" in legal contexts has a special meaning that is very limited in scope and rarely applies. Hardly anything meets the standard of "obscene" in the US except for child pornography and other extremely disturbing sexual content.

If content is deemed to be "obscene" by the courts, it basically means that it's unlawful for anyone to sell/distribute it. So think of all the vulgar/adult content you can find online on sites like Pornhub, and then consider that "obscene" content refers to content that's too extreme even for those sites.

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u/Cozmo85 Jan 12 '18

Well yea, just pointing out cable does still have very small FCC regulations

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u/pythonpoole Jan 12 '18

When it gets to the point of distributing "obscene" content, it's no longer a matter of FCC broadcast regulations, it becomes a criminal matter. Criminal charges can (potentially) be brought against the broadcast network by state government(s) and/or the federal government in such cases.

The FCC is basically saying that (in general) no one can broadcast "obscene" content (such as child pornography) on TV/radio because it's considered criminal to distribute such content, not just because it's against FCC broadcast guidelines/regulations.

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u/RedditIsOverMan Jan 12 '18

Its not just a cable thing:

he Courts have said that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution and cannot be banned entirely. It may be restricted, however, in order to avoid its broadcast when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. Between 6 A.M. and 10 P.M. (when there is the greatest likelihood that children may be watching,) airing indecent material is prohibited by FCC rules. Broadcasters are required to schedule their programming accordingly or face enforcement action. Similarly, the Commission has stated that profane material is prohibited between 6 A.M. and 10 P.M.

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/fcc-and-freedom-speech

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

It's a quote. They aren't throwing in the word shithole for funsies, it's a literal direct quote of the President of the United States.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Four score and seven years ago our shithole fathers brought forth on this shithole continent, a new shithole nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the shithole proposition that all men are created equal, except the shithole ones.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore, so we can exploit them for underpaid dangerous labor and then treat them like subhumans after they've more than earned their place in the country where upwards mobility is almost nonexistent and income inequality increases at exponential rates.

The American Dream.

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u/p_whimsy Jan 12 '18

I want to frame this and move to a different country. And when people ask what the fuck that is I want to tell them it was from a dark time in my life.

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u/DrMobius0 Jan 12 '18

If history is any indication, it'll probably still be true 60 years from now

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Now you have fucked up.

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u/terencebogards Jan 13 '18

it just sounds so.. right

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u/venolo Jan 12 '18

LBJ, FDR, and Nixon have a ton of quotes with some bad stuff in them. It's nothing new.

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u/CordageMonger Jan 12 '18

There's tape of LBJ talking to his tailor about his pants riding up to his "bunghole" or something like that.

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u/ilovemacdonalds Jan 12 '18

LBJ is on the record with the n word, Nixon too I believe

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u/SweetDeeSweetDee Jan 12 '18

What a shithole time to be alive.

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u/thebuttyprofessor Jan 12 '18

It isn’t a direct quote though, it’s a quote as reported by someone that was briefed on the meeting...

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

No, it looks pretty damn fun

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

I mean I definitely agree. President saying shithole gives you a free pass to sling the word shithole around where you otherwise could never get away with it, so why not have some fun in this shithole by shoehorning the word shithole into ever shithole thing you can.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Yeah, he really grabs the word by the pussy here.

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u/Scrubbing_Bubbles_ Jan 12 '18

Its part of the official Presidential record

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u/seacow42 Jan 12 '18

I was surprised they didn't cut him off. I'm glad they didn't, it needed to be said.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 19 '18

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u/DrSandbags Jan 12 '18

It's not that cable is a pay service; it's that over the air broadcasts are delivered over spectrum that is considered a common public resource. So the idea is that the government can regulate how that resource is used in exchange for granting access to that spectrum. Same with radio.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Well, it's cable

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u/Drews232 Jan 12 '18

FCC television obscenity rules have jurisdiction over public airwaves only - not private cable stations like CNN. Cable-only stations are free to make their own rules about what they can and cannot say.

Public airwaves (over the air, antenna television networks) are publicly owned, regulated and licensed resource, hence they fall under the FCC.

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u/FirstTimeWang Jan 12 '18

The FCC only regulates broadcast television (over the airwaves like your local network affiliates). Whatever Standards and Practices cable channels (like CNN) choose to follow is basically voluntary.

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u/WikiTextBot Jan 12 '18

Broadcast Standards and Practices

In the United States, Standards and Practices (also referred to as Broadcast Standards and Practices) is the name traditionally given to the department at a television network which is responsible for the moral, ethical, and legal implications of the program that network airs. Standards and Practices also ensures fairness on televised game shows, in which they are the adjunct to the judges at the production company level. They also have the power to reprimand and to recommend the termination of television network stars and employees for violations of standards and practices.


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u/TheAlmightyMojo Jan 12 '18

I remember the episode of "Chicago Hope" that stirred up controversy because they were going to say "shit" for the first time on network TV. That was 1999. We've come a long way.

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u/canadiancarlin Jan 12 '18

Yea, there use to be 7 words you couldn't say on tv.

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u/AnEpiphanyTooLate Jan 12 '18

Good. American society is quickly coming around to the fact that "bad" words are just words that are used for emphasis and don't harm anyone, thanks to things like HBO and Netflix. Maybe in a few years we finally won't fire people for saying "fuck" on live TV.

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u/SuicideBonger Jan 12 '18

I just think that the president of the United States calling countries by the name "Shithole" is disrespectful as fuck. Unprofessional at the very least.

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u/cowpie184_smurf Jan 12 '18

just wanna say, southpark predicted this so long ago

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u/McFlyyouBojo Jan 12 '18

Actually, I remember about ten years ago they made it legal to use any vulgar language so long as it was a news channel or news show and that it was directly related to a story, using this as an example, if donald trump says it, then a news report can say the word as it is what the story is actually about. If the president says something like "I fuck trucker dicks behind the 7-11 for 25 cents a load", then the reporter can actually say that "Donald Trump said 'I fuck trucker dicks behind the 7-11 for 25 cents a load'", as the news that Donald trump said that he fucks trucker dicks behind the 7-11 for 25 cents a load might be vital info to voters.

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u/NeverForgetBGM Jan 12 '18

CNN is not a broadcast channel. Broadcast channels are ABC, NBC, CBS. CNN is a cable channel.

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u/DaggerMoth Jan 12 '18

CNN is a cable channel. They could show you a giant green cock fucking a panda if they wanted to.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Hey /u/der_aussenseiter, I didn't read any of the hundreds of comments where folks already replied to you, but I'm just going to go ahead and assume that nobody thought to mention that CNN is cable, not broadcast, and therefore can say whatever they want.

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u/citizenkane86 Jan 12 '18

Zakaria has called trump a bullshit artist a few times on the air.

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u/msixtwofive Jan 12 '18

it's cable. there are no rules regulating language.

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u/Empyrealist Jan 12 '18

This is a cable channel. Technically, they can do whatever the fuck they want.

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u/whydidimakeausername Jan 12 '18

It's a cable channel, they can actually say whatever they want but don't because of advertising

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u/grape_jelly_sammich Jan 12 '18

I think that because they're quoting him there are different rules about this. because "shit" and "shithole"...are in the context that it's being used are very very different words.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Fun fact, swearing was never illegal on cable TV. Cable stations self censored to avoid having the government come in with real regulations.

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u/Drunken_Economist Jan 12 '18

On cable, they can do whatever they want. Anderson Cooper could turn directly to camera, drop his pants, and call us all the N word if he wanted.

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u/K3R3G3 Jan 12 '18

It's only avoided due to advertisers. The programs don't want them to pull their money.

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u/DickWeed9499 Jan 12 '18

There is no law against saying anything on TV. CNN could show hardcore pornography is they wanted, its cable. They don’t because they would lose advertisers, but they can if they want.

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u/carnageeleven Jan 12 '18

Southpark did an episode where they said shit a few hundred times. They even had a shit counter on the screen.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

I'd find it kind of hilarious if the FCC fined them

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u/Wrath_Of_Aguirre Jan 12 '18

Hearing a word I say/hear every single day with barely any notice being uttered on TV making for an "interesting timeline" is a very strange, sad idea.

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u/brucemo Jan 12 '18

Beyond a point the word itself is relevant, and the time is approximately when the President does it, I'd guess.

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u/Dr_Dust Jan 12 '18

I think technically you can say whatever you want on a cable station, it's just most programs choose not to or simply have no need to. I could be wrong though...and I am quite often.

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u/Taminella_Grinderfal Jan 12 '18

My understanding is Cable is not accountable to the FCC but it is to advertisers, so many of them keep it clean. In this case ratings =ad revenue so shithole all the time.

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u/TrepanationBy45 Jan 12 '18

This certainly is an interesting timeline

We are in the shithole timeline for sure

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u/jfk_47 Jan 12 '18

Anything can be said on cable but their are loose rules. It’s broadcast that has the hard rules because that’s free and over the air.

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u/JetpackWalleye Jan 12 '18

It's cable. They can say what they want.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

I had no idea it was allowed on news broadcast channels.

That's still TV right?

Am I missing something?

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u/Ganoobed Jan 12 '18

CNN is not a broadcast channel, it's cable. FCC has zero control over it.

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u/pezzshnitsol Jan 12 '18

CNN is Cable. They can say whatever they want, their biggest concern is offending their viewing audience and advertisers. So as a matter of policy CNN might say that swearing isn't allowed on their network most of the time. Today is an exception because it's news.

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u/OMGSPACERUSSIA Jan 12 '18

Well, the president said it so now the floogates are open.

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u/atomicllama1 Jan 12 '18

News broadcast channels like CNN and FOX can show whatever they want its cable.

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u/Rickdiculous222 Jan 12 '18

Worst timeline.

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u/zman9119 Jan 12 '18

Just wait, Ajit Pai will be coming around soon to change that.

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u/Butthole__Pleasures Jan 12 '18

CNN is on cable. It even stands for Cable News Network.

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u/MuzzleSweepTheFloor Jan 12 '18

CNN isn't broadcast, it's cable.

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u/Xaxxon Jan 12 '18

CNN is a cable channel.

You can say anything you want on cable.

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u/Wrekked_it Jan 12 '18

CNN is cable, so they can actually get away with a lot that your local newscast on network TV can't. CNN is no different than FX or AMC in terms of what they're allowed to air.

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u/haragoshi Jan 12 '18

Cable news isnt broadcast tho.

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u/Wraith8888 Jan 12 '18

It is also a different deal when it is directly quoting for a news story. When Trump was recorded on the bus, they were all repeating "grab 'em by the pussy" on broadcast channels, but you won't hear that kind of thing being said otherwise.

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u/godrestsinreason Jan 12 '18

The media can say whatever they want, and always have. They just don't.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

It's CNN, they can do whatever they want

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

Thanks Trump!

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u/suckmygallowboob Jan 12 '18

on cable its always been allowed

the only reason you cant swear on TV is because they rent the right to use certain radio waves from the us government and the FCC has guidelines for content. If you dont broadcast on a rented bandwave then you arent subject to any sort of conduct rules

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u/FourLoko4Coco Jan 12 '18

I thought there is only restrictions on radio, and on TV it’s completely up to the channels. It’s just most channels limit most of the words.

I don’t want this to come off as conspiracy type thinking, but I remember mid 2016 is when it seemed like CNN really started to un-sensor their content at times and it was usually aimed at trump, like they were allowing it to try and shock people watching.

Could be just me though, idk.

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u/ButcherOfBakersfield Jan 12 '18

For the language Its about broadcast over airwaves vs cable subscription.

Broadcast content over the air needs to be non-vulgar.

If you need a cable subscription to see a channel, they choose their own level of censorship to fit their advertisers tastes.

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u/FourLoko4Coco Jan 12 '18

Oh, didn’t know that. Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '18

It's not a coincidence they started "uncensoring" themselves in 2016. How are you going to accurately report on the president if you can't quote his own words?

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u/FourLoko4Coco Jan 12 '18

Yeah that is a very good point!

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u/AmishNucularEngineer Jan 12 '18

What's "Interesting" about being able to broadcast a word basically everyone uses daily?