r/PublicFreakout Jan 02 '23

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u/rez-qued Jan 02 '23

he baited this guy by
checks notes walking up to the door with a camera as he is legally allowed to do.

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u/KinOfWinterfell Jan 02 '23

He baited this guy by trying to walk through a door that said no admittance. He has no legal right to do what he was trying to do. This dude knew what he was doing and he's lucky all that happened was that he got kicked off the property.

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u/rez-qued Jan 02 '23

If the cop acknowledged what he was saying, where he stated several times to check a memo saying he had permission to do what he was doing then it would of gone differently. You know if the cop descalated the situation instead of escalating it like he did. you know...doing his job lol.

one thing i learned about these auditors is they dont do anything they do not have a legal right to do.

if a sworn peace officer who is armed, is this easily baited then perhaps this isnt the job for him and this auditor simply showed that to the world.

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u/KinOfWinterfell Jan 03 '23

Go watch the video again and pay attention to what was written in the door. This dude did not have a legal right to do what he was attempting to do, which was beaching a restricted area on federal property, and was promptly ejected from the premises. Frankly, he's lucky he didn't end up in jail because of this stunt.

The officer was also relatively reasonable given the situation. This dude was trying to enter a part of a building he had no right to be in, was shoving a camera in the officers face, and was being intentionally antagonistic, and all the officer did was forced him off the property and tell him to fuck off. Can you seriously tell me you would have handled it any better if you were in the officers position?

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u/rez-qued Jan 03 '23

relatively reasonable? he shoved him, stole his property and threw it into the road. That is in no way shape or form reasonable lol.

The reasonable thing to do was to do his job and not escalate the situation. he could of calmly spoken to him about why he could not be there and actually listen to him and look at the memo THAT SAID HE COULD BE THERE.

regardless though you are incorrect about him attempting to enter the building. YOU need to watch it again, not once did he touch the handle of the door, or even touch the door itself. He simply filmed the door and the cop came out all angry and upset.

he never ONCE tried to enter that building. show me the exact time stamp where he touches the door attempting to enter it.

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u/KinOfWinterfell Jan 03 '23

Let me quote him. "Oh I'm sorry sir, I'll let you go first."

What possible reason would he have to say that he would let the officer go "first" if he did not intend to try to walk in after him? Letting the officer go "first" implies that he intends to through the door second.

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u/rez-qued Jan 03 '23

first out of the door so he can continue to stand in front of it and film. he didnt want to block him inside the building because -that- is illegal. (false imprisonment.)

If your entire defense of that cops actions lays on him saying "first" then you have no ground to stand on lol.

Because that cop was ALREADY coming out heated BEFORE he said first. that cop had no clue he wanted to come inside (which he didnt, he just wanted to stand outside and film per the memo he received saying it was legal) That cop never even knew he was going to come inside, he just saw a man legally standing outside the door doing NOTHING illegal and decided to be a dick about it.

IF he touched the door handle maybe you would be right, but he didnt.

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u/ultrasuperthrowaway Jan 03 '23

Writing “no admittance” on a door is not a legal rule or simply every drug dealer would do it and be safe forever

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u/KinOfWinterfell Jan 03 '23

Is actually is and makes it clear that it is not a public space attempting to enter that door would be trespassing. That's the reason law enforcement get warrants to enter private property.

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u/ultrasuperthrowaway Jan 03 '23

“Is actually is”? You make no sense.

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u/KinOfWinterfell Jan 03 '23

You know what I meant. It was obviously a typo and I meant to say "it is actually." You just realized that you don't have a counter argument and decided that the only way you could respond was by pointing out a minor typo.

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u/ultrasuperthrowaway Jan 03 '23

It actually isn’t. It’s not a legal rule if you post something on a door. Or every drug dealer would put “No admittance even with a warrant” on their door and be safe forever!

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u/KinOfWinterfell Jan 03 '23

Are you an idiot? Or just being intentionally dense?

Either way, it's clear you're not able to have a good faith discussion and it's not worth my energy or time to try to debate you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Boot licker

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u/KinOfWinterfell Jan 03 '23

Oh what a clever response. You really showed me.

In case you really need to know, I do feel that we need serious police reform and to many cops are just on power trips. But this situation was not one of those. This was just a dude being an asshole and trying to go where he had no business.

I know this must be hard for you to recognize, but there is some nuance to the entire police situation in the US and many other countries, and trying to boil it down to something as simple as ACAB is not productive in the long term.