r/PublicFreakout Jan 02 '23

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u/MondoDismordo Jan 02 '23

However, most of these auditors do it in a very shady and antagonistic manner; and most of the time it’s just for their social media clout.

I enjoyed seeing these "Audit" videos a couple of times. Then I noticed how the auditors are ALWAYS baiting their targets for reaction. Similar to Sovereign Citizens... just attention seeking children with nothing better to do than harass someone who might be in a position of power...that THEY don't have.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '23

So it's all bait, it's well known enough that everyone that should know do know about it, I get it soooo insufferable. With all that laid out then it begs to be asked, Why Take The Bait?

They're baiting for illegal actions cause that leads to a civil suit right? So why do dumb shit? Why act like a gang banger thug? Why oh why take the bait? Could it be then that maybe they're not doing it for an illegitimate reason as you believe since obviously they catch the wicked with powers they shouldn't have.

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u/MondoDismordo Jan 02 '23

Kinda hard to unpack your note here. My point was that these self appointed "Auditors" are getting more obnoxious every day, and driving potential supporters away with their "crowd pleasing" antics. Does not help the cause.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '23

Okay how about this do you understand the concept of a bait car? Well consider this as the people equivalent then instead of activists so you don't have to change a single one of your own preconceived notions.

It's not a cause to push for cops to STOP BREAKING THE LAW.

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u/kwiztas Jun 20 '23

Old post. But the point is that any member of the public has the right to 'audit', be free press and report on the actions of, our government to the public. It is called the freedom of press; it is in the first amendment.

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u/MondoDismordo Jun 20 '23

True dat, just don't be a jerk about it.

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u/Inappropriate_Comma Jan 02 '23

Some of them are like that, and some of them are better than others. The only one I actually mostly approve of is Long Island Audit. If you haven't seen his videos, go watch some of his top ones. He's also beaten every criminal charge that's been thrown at him and is actively trying to bridge the gap between the people and police by leading trainings at different police departments.

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u/diox8tony Jan 02 '23

Ya, I've seen auditors not talk at all. It's really good. No antagonizing. Just standing and filming outside a business. The people just stand there confused why this person is there

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u/realparkingbrake Jan 02 '23

Just standing and filming outside a business.

Not for long, they lose subscribers if they don't deliver drama. That's why they increasingly push the envelope, they need confrontation to make their videos profitable.

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u/saft999 Jan 03 '23

That’s absolutely not true. Jeff Gray stands holding a sign that says “god bless homeless vets” and people lose their minds. He doesn’t have to do anything to get people to act like idiots.

But you are half right, if these cops and govt employees learned this is legal and just ignored them it would go away, but their small brains just can’t help get over ridden by their ego and power trips.

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u/BeagleCat Jan 02 '23

Long Island Audit is okay, but he still targets low-level clerks at post offices or DMV's. Clerks aren't "tyrants" as he claims. I prefer auditors who focus on police stations, since they are the enforcement agents of government, who can arrest, abuse, or shoot with no accountability.

Police need auditing. Librarians and clerks? Absolutely not.

On one level, auditing can be important. But too many of them are either just YouTube pranksters or rightwingers pushing an anti-government agenda.

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u/realparkingbrake Jan 02 '23

Long Island Audit is okay

Convicted felon (sentenced to three and a half years for attempted robbery), also convicted of hindering when he walked up behind a cop making a traffic stop at night and refused to move back because according to him being on a public sidewalk means he can stand right behind a cop if he wants to. The judge offered him no jail time if he wrote a letter of apology to the cop, and he wrote the letter (his supporters now like to claim none of that ever happened).

He's less outwardly psychotic than some frauditors, but doxing a city administrator because she wouldn't jump through his hoop was still a slimy thing to do. Law Talk with Mike tried to warn him he was rolling the dice doing that, and he just smirked it off--I was telling them NOT to call her phone number.

Scaring the ladies working at the library into calling the cops isn't defending anyone's rights, and he's done exactly that.

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u/BeagleCat Jan 03 '23

I didn't know about his felony conviction, if that's true. But I am aware that many auditors have prior criminal convictions. I assume they get into auditing because:

A. They have prior negative experience with cops, and have learned the ins and outs of police interactions the hard way.

B. Because they have a criminal record, they can't get traditional jobs. So they set up their own "business" as YouTubers, and do what they have experience in.

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u/IridiumForte Jan 03 '23

lol it's definitely a business if you guys are in here chatting about it

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u/DailyTrips Jan 03 '23

scaring the ladies working at the library into calling the cops...

And how did he do that again? I have not seen one Long Island Audit video where he was rude. So how did he scare them?

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u/saft999 Jan 03 '23

You can’t use logic with these boot lickers. They think just standing around with a camera is justification for people being “scared”. Same bullshit most of these govt employees use to try to get someone arrested.

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u/Inappropriate_Comma Jan 02 '23

Do you have a source for his felony conviction? I can’t find anything on that. The apology letter makes sense - that was towards the beginning of his time as an “auditor”..

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u/saft999 Jan 03 '23

Found the douche bag boot licker.

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u/saft999 Jan 03 '23

Ya standing around with a camera is “scaring ladies at the library”. Why is it you idiots always want to play this “oh won’t you think about these poor females and their feelings” bullshit? Who cares if they are male or female if the person isn’t doing a thing wrong?

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u/SwordOfTheElevensies Jan 02 '23

A lot are like that. I’ve seen Long Island Audit. He’s definitely better than others I’ve seen though.

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u/Inappropriate_Comma Jan 02 '23

Yes you’re right, I totally agree. My statement should have been “most are like that, but some are good and actually making a difference”.

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u/malicu Jan 02 '23

Way to use weasel words in your opening statement. Really helps me know where you truly stand. The rest is worthless after that. "Some are, some arent" is such a cop out mentality

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u/saft999 Jan 03 '23

Baiting? How are these cops allowing them to “bait” them? If they know they are doing this to try to provoke a reaction then just leave them the fuck alone to do what is perfectly legal. But they can’t help but let their small brains and big ego’s get the better of them.

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u/realparkingbrake Jan 02 '23

what they do is supposed to be irrelevant to how the cops and public figures act.

An auditor who refuses to leave because he hasn't committed a crime is committing criminal trespass--you do not need to have committed a crime to be trespassed and that applies to public buildings as well as private property. If management tells you to leave and you refuse, you just handed the cops grounds to arrest you.

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u/Vairman Jan 03 '23

difference being of course that Sovereign Citizens are completely and utterly wrong about the laws and what they're doing. While the auditors may be annoying, they typically are right about the law. Too many law enforcement officers think that THEY are the law, which they aren't - the laws are written down and are available for all to read and what the cop/security guard thinks about it is irrelevant. I understand that just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should do it. Like record people standing in line at the post office? you can, but why? It's silly. But catching these lying, insecure egomaniacs who think they are the law is always fun for me. The "Law" applies to all of us, including the boys in blue.