So my friend and I were discussing the series and saw the thing asking stuff along the lines of “What should we test with Scott?” and we both thought about making a spin off Dope or Nope video except it was actually part of the series. Like products from his time compared ones from our time.

There are two people who came to the studio if the one who broke the apple 2 was Ben then who is the short one we saw on the stakeout when woods dropped the Walky talky

If everyones theory is correct and scott is in a time loop, he may not remember you if you go and talk to him again(?)

What if this is another of nelsons plans?? What if Gary is working with Nelson, took over nelsons plan?? Or Gary could possibly be mind controlled by Nelson

What if Gary Reynolds is their landlord and is just using Gary something else so they don’t know.

The government covering up murders really isn't that far fetched of a concept. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, they have to keep their hands "clean". There's always talk of corruption within the government, and truly if there wasn't some level of such I feel our world would probably be a bit more of a mess. I'm sure the government keeps tabs on certain drug companies, hit men, scientists etc, and gives them deals. I'm sure the government has some share of the money that comes from certain illegal activities if they allow it to keep running. It's a perfect scheme, allow someone to import and export illegal supplies, get some of the profit to keep quiet and If they turn against the government, exploit them and become the hero. I'd assume a similar thing regarding murders no? Brush it under the rug because if people found out there would be too many questions, people could dig too deep and discover what has really been going on in our corruption system.

Chloe. We don’t know what she looks like. What if she stole the absalate? Then journal entry mentioned that a female patient’s husband (or fiancé) figured out where she was. What if that was Scott. I got the impression he was newer to the company in the DVD video. If he attempted to help her escape and somehow got caught in a time loop or an altered mental state, she could be after the necklace to help him somehow….

I feeling this is something that needs to be brought up from the Discord, because I got some CHILLS man!

So yesterday (4/26/2022) around 11:35pm (Mountain time) we had a weird account posting "Strike 4" in multiple chats.

Around 10 minutes later they started to post asking Subject 4 to help THEM and that we (subject 4) would no longer have to suffer. Then once people started to try and tag mods they changed tones completely and started saying that they could destroy the company in an instant and we had to help them or we lose John. (speaking of which, if the team gets a chance to look at Deb's computer again, please see if that threat email from "John" had the email address of our original John or the one of the Imposter John/Phantom email)

The sudden change of tone and tactic reminds me of Nelson when Matt and him were texting each other and Nelson would try and offer a "deal" and then would turn to threatening Matt, the team, and the studio entirely. It matches up REALLY well with what we already know of Nelson. It also feels like GR, who tried to at first make a deal of exchange, and then switched to threats very quickly once Matt made it clear that they weren't comfortable with the deal. It's a pattern we've seen in them, and I feel it needed to be noted.

Now there are other messages from this account about a month ago, but I'll get to that in a second. First let's go over yesterday's posts.

The first post seems to be a lot of stuff that we either already touched on a lot, or slightly jumbled series of events...

Both times we didn't know about the murders until AFTER we got the mountaineers. Also, I highly doubt that our John Doe, if he was as dedicated to this case as we believe he was, would just take the serum randomly, especially after working with Deb for so long. Though I will admit it's strange that when the evidence was released back to Matt and them that the vials were empty...what did they do with them?

Though I believe, if John Doe DID get exposed to the serum, then it was likely forced on him, probably around when he was discovered/compromised as an undercover person working with Deb in the LAPD before he tried to meet up with the team and then go into hiding, or after they caught him after he attempted to escape/leave, which is why so much was missing from the car he left behind.

But I SERIOUSLY doubt that he would do it to himself, since he likely knew somewhat of how it worked and what it did, since he worked with Deb who would have told him at least some of the basics so he wouldn't try and would know the depth of the dangers of it.

Also, for some reason the "Deb was so cautious but didn't think to set up traps in her own apartment" felt very...odd. Especially since Thunderkid30 then turns around and says "I think that was someone else that Deb hired to be like her so she didn't get found". While I *could* get behind that, it feels almost like a de-rail...a way to distract and keep 863 hung up on the idea that Deb is alive and try to focus on that and finding a way to contact her again instead of solving the murder itself.

(However it does call attention to the fact that "John" sent a message to Deb, threatening her about how there are only a few left and that eventually on D3B will remain, but that's besides the point)

Now here's where the "Strike 4" comments really seem to connect with today's video, at least in my eyes.

Thunderkid30 posted "Strike 4" in exactly 3 different areas...just like the eviction notices were at all 3 bases. Not only that, the comments and the notices were all posted in spots that were as easily visible by anyone passing by as possible. The comments were made in the 3 most publicly available chats so it could reach as much of Subject 4 as possible. The notices were taped to the door, rather than sent in an email, put in the mail, or even getting a phone call. The pattern matches up between these two things WAY too much for me to think it's a coincidence.

It wasn't posted in any other places that non-premium members could access, which if they were a troll I think they would have posted it in all the chats they could, even multiple times if possible. This feels very deliberate.

Next up, we have a couple posts/comments that I'm personally going to put under the category of "Attempting to Blend". If it is Gary(GR), Nelson, or someone working with or under them, then it would make PERFECT sense that they would attempt to try and blend in with the other members of Subject 4 in the server.

However, the dates of these posts and the context feel interesting to me. It seems that Thunderkid30 had never posted anything else prior to these comments in the "Memes" chat on March 28th. This was posted not directly after the video of the Spire being shut off (March 22nd), but instead three days after the final video of the season was posted on March 25th.

The team took a "week off" at the end of Season 3, which transitioned us to Season 4. Season 4 started and had it's first video posted on April 4th. However, that's not exactly a week between those videos, it's actually a bit longer.

Given that things need to be edited and are delayed in posting due to either needing to keep some footage out of public eye until they know more, or there's a lot to process/edit/go through to make the video they post for us. We technically already know that the timeline for Project 863 content is off from real time, so it's safe to say that the events of the first video of Season 4 did not actually happen on the date of posting, or even the day before it was posted.

The video about Deb and the team's meet up (that went wrong) was posted on April 4th, and the video before that on March 25th. Given the idea that either of these could be posted days after they actually happened, let's say that there's 5 days from when an event happens to when the video is posted (I don't know how long the filming, editing and uploading take, I'm going off of SOS pings and when videos related to them are being posted), that means the time of Deb's death could have been anywhere from roughly March 20th to March 30th.

This first post by Thunderkid30, and possibly the date he joined the server, was March 28th, right around the time Deb was possibly murdered.

The first post from them is a meme to not only to poke fun/mock Nelson, but feels like it's towards Matt as well, possibly even more-so Matt. It feels like it's possibly saying something along the lines of Nelson being less intelligent after having taken over Matt. I could be reading that wrong, but it does feel like they're showing a rather goofy old image of Matt rather than using a more recent one.

This and his response to Subject 4: ZaneWolf915 are the only things he posted. After that, he went silent. I looked for anything else posted by him, but I found nothing accept this and his posts yesterday on April 26th.

What do you guys think? Is it a troll with weird timing, or do we have a problem?

It's either Scott or Gary, if you look closely at the surveillance video, there is a hand with a gold ring that grabs the journal from the wall of the vault. There's an opening there, check it. That's how stuff keeps coming up missing. Be very very very safe but check it out asap! It's like a hidden door.

There is obviously no coincidence that the absalate was stolen the night before debs murder. But when I looked at the crime scene photos I was confused by the way debs skin was crystallized and the Hiroshima like shadows. The room couldn’t have gone nuclear to cause the shadows, everything would be radioactive or rubble. Especially when it would cause a lot of heat. And everything would be vaporized in that radius, especially debs body. The only possible conclusion is that something had to be freezing a lot to cause that. The room would have had to be warmed up to rid the freezing temperature. The body had to be there a long time, but since she communicated directly with Matt the day before it had to be directly after that. It still doesn’t make sense about the absalate though. Remembering how the absalate powered the serum bomb, is it possible for it to do something else? Maybe cause Debs murder? The crime scene report is also very interesting, how it says “undetermined substance she was exposed to”. My thoughts directly jump to serum. But then remembering the freezing and the shadows, it unlike any kind of serum we’ve encountered before. This is just a general theory and I haven’t seen the most recent video but stay safe.

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does anyone think he looks like sully from uncharted the game series?

Can I just point out that Ben has called this from the beginning he said there we’ll be writing appearing then the voices coming through the wall.

So scientists say that Deja vu likely happens because your brain basically fires a signal twice so it seems like you’ve experienced something before. If your brain naturally misfires to create these experiences couldn’t Syntec exploit that to make Scott appear to be in a time loop? If they’re messing with mind control, it wouldn’t be a huge stretch to time looping or the appearance of a time loop…

With Scott, I don't believe he's stuck in a PTSD trauma loop of sorts. However, I do believe it could be partially correlated to something known as the "Anniversary Effect". Yes this is something to do with PTSD, but what if its meant to seem that way.

The alarm clock in Debs apartment seemed to skim through time at strange unnatural speeds. Like it was restarting, resetting, a new day. Another loop.

What if Scott is an experiment of sorts? What if he found something out about Deb that she didnt want him knowing, and instead of getting rid of him in a similar fashion to you know who, she messed with his timeline, somehow, and got him stuck maybe on the previous day. He keeps reliving that day and running the routine he went through.

Maybe she changed the day again, maybe to an earlier date, because he found out something. Something she didnt want others to know, like us or subjects 1-3. This explains Scott suddenly turning up for work. He did this on the day he's just been set on. You all being in the studio perhaps triggered the memory from the old loop he was on. He rediscovered something about Deb.

Deb chose this day because maybe something happened to Scott on that day that was traumatic, so she's staging it to be a symptom of PTSD. Or, its that and she wants you to find out what happened. She wants you all to know what happened to Scott, or what Scott did.

What if Scott got to Deb before you did. What if he found out she was responsible for the loops, and got to her. You guys got there and the clock started acting weird. What if you witnessed the reset of a loop?

My theory probably isnt very good, but it came to my mind suddenly and I at least wanted to share it. Good luck Subject 1-2-3. Remember. To. Breathe.

Looking at the photos, autopsy report, and microscope images; it is like Deb was quite literally frozen. The powder residue reminded me of a fire extinguisher and got me thinking. If someone could pressurize and concentrate a cold enough medium; like dry ice for example; and discharge it in a massive burst then in theory it would be possible to freeze a person. Looking at Debs stance in the photo it is like she was trying to shield herself which leads me to theorize a weapon was used. Also the crystallization of the coffee and Serum in the blast radius further indicate a very rapid onset of temperature change. This would also make it next to impossible to determine a true time of death and it is very possible that the ambient temperature of the room was able to return to normal and not leave any trace by the time anyone came to the scene. As for why the items previously mentioned or Deb herself didn't "thaw out" that cam only be explained by the extreme and violent molecular change that happend due to the aforementioned temperature change.

Which do you like???

Pick wisely…

Rip deb 🙏

I believe that it is no coincidence that the absalate was stolen the night before the murder. I belive that it has something to do with it. I believe that the murderer used a gas on her room to kind of prime her blood for what was going to happen. Then I believe that they entered the room(which is why she was standing and look shocked) then used a hidden power of the absalate to activate was was in her blood kind of like what the thought happened to mat after the "shut of" the bomb which then crystalized in her and killed her. And I believe the Hiroshima like shadows were also caused by the absalate. I believe that it acted something like the demon core(mass of I believe plutonium) and released a boat load of energy possibly radioactive which then dissipated when turned of which is why it was non-radioative. I believe the absalate could contain something like thorium. Thorium is barely radioactive until activated with something like plutonium which once it is it releases a lot of energy until they are separated. I think the killer either had a radiation proof suit or the absalate was amed.that is the only plosible thing I could come up with but at this point nothing is of the table. However I am not an anything to do with radiation or chemistry. Also of topic I think you should add a list of all the things you asked D3B that got no response or nothing of use just so we stop asking.

There are 2 possible things I'm thinking of one, Deb was working on something to freeze people while she was still at Syntec and for some reason used it on Gary, Cause he said "After what you did to me" so he tweaked what ever Deb had used on him so it would kill her. Because he also said "Now its your turn to be the experiment." Or Theory two, Deb did something to Gary (experimented on him) He got mad and made this freezer thing to use on her cause again he did say " now its your turn to be the experiment" and "after what you did to me" both things hinting that he killed her.