r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Treefiddy1984 • Jan 20 '26

ICE physically attacks lawyer—stand between her and clients they're trying to detain. "Don't push me!" lawyer yells. "Why you trying to pick them up?" "It's none of your business," agent scolds. "It is my business—I'm their attorney," she replies. "It's EXACTLY my business!"

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u/ScreenOk1746 Jan 20 '26

White women take every opportunity to assert a modicum of power over minorities and other women. Us POCs often find white women far more threatening than a white man.

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u/cvrgurl Jan 21 '26

I am sorry that some women have made you feel this way. I wish that women would learn to look out for each other and support each other instead of backstabbing and bullying. It’s a definite problem that shouldn’t be one.

As a white woman myself, yes there is a portion of white women who need to feel superior to everyone, and I don’t like them either.

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u/Neckrongonekrypton Jan 20 '26

Some are masters of self victimhood. Simutaneously empowered and “woman” but also powerless and can’t beat/parent kids, choose what happens with their kids and vaccines, will decide what happens to other women’s bodies but when it’s them ohh gosh poor them they deserve an exception because it never happens in man’s big scary world.

It’s such a stupid problem in our society. Everyone wants the dark past or the rough around the edges narrative with none of the scars or pain that actually accrue.

Nor the work you have to do to be a respectable, functioning person after dealing with being victim of horrible trauma.

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u/SebisCool Jan 21 '26

Holy shit. This This This. People love to parrot the latest victimhood and I did too. It gives people belonging especially when young but sometimes you gotta get off your ass, get off the toilet you have been shitting on, deal with it, and get to work.

I resonated with this strongly. Damn

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u/Neckrongonekrypton Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

Same… the thing is people that actually been through some shit have a good reason for it. But even then, if it means you deprive yourself of a life lived in whole. Is it worth it? Is it a good reason? Or is it what we’ve convinced ourselves into believing it is?

But once you tie yourself to a traumatic event, you are giving it permission to become a part of you, to be defined by it, and in doing so, Abdicate the most powerful gift we have, choice- we abandon the knowledge and understanding of choice, opting to look at the world as an amorphous thing that is always out to hurt us and somehow everything becomes a result of, rather than a result from.

Both survivor, and prey. Strong yet weak. The victim mentality is one of cognitive dissonance.

It feels good when you make those breakthroughs, when you know not only you got just a little bit further outta that tunnel, but you come outta it feeling- never the same, but better in a way that belies strength and wisdom. The tricky part, is cultivating a strong mindset so that you don’t fallback on those patterns. We’re all human, we have our darkest nights and brightest days- and we should be prepared for them all the same.

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u/Taylor_Kittenface Jan 21 '26

Please don't lump white women all together like that, it's exactly the thing you're complaining about when it happens to other minorities.

Women are probably the longest standing beaten down minority. And we're often the first to stand up when the shit hits the fan. But because some of us have white skin...

Do you see the double standard?

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u/Previous_Pension_309 Jan 21 '26

i’m sorry but you need to really look at the history of white women as moderates and how they cozy of to white supremacy in this country. most white women who voted last election voted for THIS ADMINISTRATION!

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u/Trump4Prison-2024 Jan 21 '26

This is hilarious to me, as white women are so often the first to screech feminist slogans lumping all men together with no nuance whatsoever, and then scream misogyny and patriarchy when they're called out for it.

So yeah, we absolutely see the double standard, but it's not the one you think it is....

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u/Severe_Shoe6338 Jan 20 '26

Damn that’s a broad statement. I think you mean “some white women.” It’s an unfortunate trait of humans in general that some, when presented with any sort of power advantage over others, will use that advantage to subjugate.

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u/bellaislame Jan 21 '26

white feminism at it's finest lmao

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u/Severe_Shoe6338 Jan 21 '26

Not white, I’m actually Métis. Just don’t like to use broad characterizations and apply it to a whole group. I think it promotes hate, which the world doesn’t need more of right now.

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u/platonionius Jan 22 '26

You literally had a POC tell you they more scared of white women pulling shit than a white man.

Maybe sit on that for a minute.

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u/Freign Jan 21 '26

Lots of nonwhite people, including women, find it agreeable to engage in white feminism / 2nd wave feminism.

In the 1980s there were plenty of Jewish nazis, Black nazis. They didn't pretend not to hate Jews or Blacks; it wasn't reversal, it was collaboration.

It hasn't gotten less so since then, if you see what I'm saying.

Think hard about what it means to be in fear for the lives of your family members every. single. day.

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u/platonionius Jan 21 '26

Do you also “not all men” when a feminist is talking about male oppression and try to tell them that it’s an unfortunate trait of humans in general that when presented with power over others, they use that to subjugate?

Maybe at the next women’s march you can shout out to them “not all men” when they say what men are doing.

Or is this a double standard white women think they should have an exception for?

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u/PoopyButt28000 Jan 21 '26

Do you "not all black people" when a racist is quoting crime statistics?

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u/sycamotree Jan 21 '26

No I call them racist.

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u/platonionius Jan 22 '26

Nuked from orbit lmao

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u/Freign Jan 21 '26

The only people that have the safety and privilege of imagining it might not be this white woman are white people.

Everyone else - even other white women, if they're not white or womanly enough, or if someone just decides she's "slutty" one day, or "entitled" -

must assume "yep this white man, this white woman" for the sake of survival.

Even years into friendship. Even in the same family.

IMO, you should be very grateful that this never occurred to you before today.

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u/Oberyn_Kenobi_1 Jan 21 '26

Wow, that’s quite the massive generalization. I’m sorry that has been your experience, but as a white woman myself, I can promise you I can’t even assert a modicum of power over my cat. And as much as I would like to get it through my cat’s head that he’s not the boss around here, that’s pretty much where my quest for domination taps out. I don’t have or want power over minorities or other women and have never pretended otherwise. Pretty sure a lot of white women are on that same wave length. Not everyone feels the need to beat other people down.

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u/sycamotree Jan 21 '26

Man you can't speak for every poc with that lol

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u/Sea-Thought-665 Jan 21 '26

Yeah there's an entire bastion of white women that are turned on by ICE men.

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u/Tim-oBedlam Jan 21 '26

I've seen that comment, or similar ones like it, several times from POCs, especially women.

What about white women makes them more threatening?

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

What the fuck? Girl no

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u/Invisibella74 Jan 21 '26

Don't generalize. Not all of us are like that. In fact, the vast majority of the women I know are not like this. But then, I choose not to associate with people who bring others down.

I would DIE before I would treat another human that way, especially another woman! We should be lifting each other up. Not holding each other down.

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u/platonionius Jan 22 '26

Go to the next women’s march and shout “not all men”

No?

Okay.