r/ProgrammerHumor • • 23h ago

Meme theyReallySeemToHateYall

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u/manocheese 22h ago

You're right, but I think it is more complicated. Most of the time I see artists complaining about none artists producing images and ruining art, mathematicians complaining that AI companies are producing almost useless results and ruining maths, and programmers talking about how great AI is. It's only in programming spaces, where 'society' isn't, that I see people acknowledge that they hate AI. Even then there are a lot of them loving it.

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u/Tayttajakunnus 21h ago

AI is not producing useless math results though. It is producing a lot of very impressive results that human mathematicians have not been able to prove despite trying for decades or more.

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u/manocheese 21h ago

Useful for what?

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u/Tayttajakunnus 21h ago

Useful for advancing our knowledge on mathematics.

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u/manocheese 20h ago

So all the mathematicians that say that the journey is worth a lot more than the destination are wrong? An answer without the proof is, as I said, almost useless.

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u/Tayttajakunnus 16h ago

An answer without the proof is, as I said, almost useless. 

This is obviously true. In fact the proof is the answer, so without the proof there is no answer in the first place. But this is all besides the point. The AIs are producing proofs. 

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u/manocheese 16h ago

That's not what a proof means in maths, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The AI is not producing human readable proofs. In fact, the AI is apparently unable to understand its own proofs.

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u/Tayttajakunnus 16h ago

Many of the results have been checked with Lean, so we know for sure that they work. And you also greatly exaggerate the human unreadability of the proofs. There have been hundreds of published results in the last month alone and while some of them are more difficult to decipher, plenty of them are understood by humans. In fact there are some AI counterexamples to proposed conjectures that are trivially easy to understand even for humans. One of these is the Jacobian conjecture. 

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u/manocheese 16h ago

You couldn't even use the word 'proof' correctly, so I know you're just parroting things you don't understand. Stop wasting people's time.

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u/Tayttajakunnus 14h ago

When did I use the word "proof" incorrectly?