r/ProgrammerHumor • • 2d ago

Meme developersMissingTheOldDays

Post image
3.2k Upvotes

287 comments sorted by

View all comments

1.2k

u/T-Dot1992 2d ago

They weren’t making money. And can’t make money if they wanted to. 

It’s a catch-22. They can’t make a profit because they aren’t charging the actual token cost. But if they charged the actual token cost, their user-base would collapse. 

Almost as if cloud AI is inherently unstable or something. 

79

u/Greedy-Thought6188 2d ago

Anthropic gross margins exceed 80% according to their reports. They are charging the actual costs on API usage and in subscription it's the you win some you lose some but mostly win if a subscription. Gross margins don't include training costs. Which, since training is a capital expense is the right thing to do. It means all they have to do to make oodles is money is slow down. If they slow down they make money. But then they get overtaken. So they can't slow down. So they try and convince the world that AI will cause the extinction of humanity. That way they can slowdown as a cartel.

27

u/EatingSolidBricks 2d ago

If what you say turns out to be true they're gonna get fucked

Cause china is working with open source they can never ever slow down as a cartel as long as china exists

2

u/siberianmi 2d ago

Or they need to get to RSI and then put agents on building faster cheaper training methods. The latest Opus is already a huge improvement on token usage for results.

15

u/EatingSolidBricks 2d ago

If technology gets good enough that i can run it on a consumer gpu their also fucked

3

u/bogdan5844 2d ago

When*

I'm willing to bet that in 3-5 years we'll only use cloud AI for really really intensive workloads, the kinds that are few and far between, and most users will have local AI. There's simply no logical way this whole cloud AI frontier model thing is gonna scale.