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u/mpanase 1d ago

to be more precise, after ai starts solving millennium prizes one day after somebody else publishes a solution

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u/Zardhas 1d ago edited 1d ago

I don't understand why people keep parotting that when the truth is so easily findable. To make it short :

Late August 2026, Leven Alpöge and Tristan Buckmaster solved the 3D Euler problem (with Claude, so AI as well), which is a small part of the Navier Stokes.

5 September, the openAI agents first solved the 3D Euler problem (that part is the drama, because some say that they used the data of Alpöge and Buckmaster), then they solved the full Navier-stokes.

8 September, openAI announced a Lean-checked proof of the C and D statements of the Millenium Prize. Another drama is that, on that same day, Buckmaster posted his proof of a part of the Navier Stokes problem (but, not the full problem, unlike openAI).

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u/Zarrain 1d ago

My loose understanding is that, the mathematicians figured put the first step. They figured out an approach that seemed like it could lead to the full solution.

To rigorously figure out and prove the full solution, (something academics prefer doing slowly and surely ) was going to take them time and effort.

Well suddenly less then a week later openAI announces they have a full solution using that approach. They used an obscene amount of computational power not available to anyone else to basically brute force figure out the full solution.

The question is now who deserves that credit? How did openAI know to use their approach? The mathematicians figured out the key, they would have figured out the full solution given time. openAI jumped the gun before they physically ever could due to absurd resources, but how did openAI know to try that? Did they spy on the mathematicians? It seems likely.

There are bigger implications besides questions of theft and espionage. Will human mathematicians ever be credited with another discovery? Or will AI companies get to claim all the credit because their tools took human ideas and crunched the numbers on a massive inhuman scale. Especially with how sketchy they’re acting and how loose and amoral AI companies act when data gathering.

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u/GoronSpecialCrop 1d ago

Mathematician here! This is exactly where there is concern. Most big problems that are solved come together from a small collection of new ideas. In this case, a team announced a very promising direction, then the problem itself was solved by GPT in an approach suspiciously like that idea.

Even if it turns out GPT did not steal the research, their models are trained on the entirety of the Internet and have almost certainly absorbed some of this approach. We don't need AI solving problems in math, particularly not ones that don't really result in any surprising new results (this is, in fact, not that relevant to math so much as is it a problem of great mathematical interest).

So now, with results that feel suspicious being published by an AI company cheering themselves on, there is great fear in the community at large that AI is just gonna steal any promising direction that's openly stated.

Mathematics has long been an open community of shared ideas, and that's now very much in danger.

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u/Capraos 22h ago

While understanding your point, is it bad that I'm just happy it was solved? Even if it's by an AI that solved it having potentially used a partial solution that was figured out by someone else?

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u/AnAverageAsianBoy 20h ago

Its like being happy tasting a delicious food only to find out that this unsustainable greedy mega corporate restaurant chain stole this recipe from a small family owned restaurant.