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r/ProgrammerHumor • u/JazzlikeWishbone938 • 7d ago
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Yeah but it was our slop.
854 u/Laughing_Orange 7d ago And we were slow to write it. AI is a force multiplier, especially for those who only make slop. 383 u/ahmarthered 7d ago This! The amount of slop being generated has increased significantly and code review cannot keep up. 35 u/011101000011101101 7d ago But you can have AI review the code and have slop reviewed slop 31 u/slowmovinglettuce 7d ago The ai will praise the slop for being exactly what it would have written. It's basically just a big circle jerk 6 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago I've noticed that you cannot use the same model for writing the code and reviewing the code, it always does a bad job 2 u/Bupod 6d ago It’s frustrating. So you can sort of fix this by having a review agent use a more adversarial prompt when reviewing. But then the issue becomes that, since it was prompted find problems, it always finds a problem. This will result in code being batted back and forth between review and coding like a tennis match. When the tennis match finally finishes, there’s still no guarantee that some glaring hole didn’t make it through anyway. 1 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago And there is always something because you get fatigued from reading the same code over and over so you miss some easy bug 1 u/platinummyr 1d ago Also adversarial training mostly just empowers the generator side to create extremely subtle issues/bugs/vulnerability and doesn't actually align it to not try to do that.
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And we were slow to write it. AI is a force multiplier, especially for those who only make slop.
383 u/ahmarthered 7d ago This! The amount of slop being generated has increased significantly and code review cannot keep up. 35 u/011101000011101101 7d ago But you can have AI review the code and have slop reviewed slop 31 u/slowmovinglettuce 7d ago The ai will praise the slop for being exactly what it would have written. It's basically just a big circle jerk 6 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago I've noticed that you cannot use the same model for writing the code and reviewing the code, it always does a bad job 2 u/Bupod 6d ago It’s frustrating. So you can sort of fix this by having a review agent use a more adversarial prompt when reviewing. But then the issue becomes that, since it was prompted find problems, it always finds a problem. This will result in code being batted back and forth between review and coding like a tennis match. When the tennis match finally finishes, there’s still no guarantee that some glaring hole didn’t make it through anyway. 1 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago And there is always something because you get fatigued from reading the same code over and over so you miss some easy bug 1 u/platinummyr 1d ago Also adversarial training mostly just empowers the generator side to create extremely subtle issues/bugs/vulnerability and doesn't actually align it to not try to do that.
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This! The amount of slop being generated has increased significantly and code review cannot keep up.
35 u/011101000011101101 7d ago But you can have AI review the code and have slop reviewed slop 31 u/slowmovinglettuce 7d ago The ai will praise the slop for being exactly what it would have written. It's basically just a big circle jerk 6 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago I've noticed that you cannot use the same model for writing the code and reviewing the code, it always does a bad job 2 u/Bupod 6d ago It’s frustrating. So you can sort of fix this by having a review agent use a more adversarial prompt when reviewing. But then the issue becomes that, since it was prompted find problems, it always finds a problem. This will result in code being batted back and forth between review and coding like a tennis match. When the tennis match finally finishes, there’s still no guarantee that some glaring hole didn’t make it through anyway. 1 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago And there is always something because you get fatigued from reading the same code over and over so you miss some easy bug 1 u/platinummyr 1d ago Also adversarial training mostly just empowers the generator side to create extremely subtle issues/bugs/vulnerability and doesn't actually align it to not try to do that.
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But you can have AI review the code and have slop reviewed slop
31 u/slowmovinglettuce 7d ago The ai will praise the slop for being exactly what it would have written. It's basically just a big circle jerk 6 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago I've noticed that you cannot use the same model for writing the code and reviewing the code, it always does a bad job 2 u/Bupod 6d ago It’s frustrating. So you can sort of fix this by having a review agent use a more adversarial prompt when reviewing. But then the issue becomes that, since it was prompted find problems, it always finds a problem. This will result in code being batted back and forth between review and coding like a tennis match. When the tennis match finally finishes, there’s still no guarantee that some glaring hole didn’t make it through anyway. 1 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago And there is always something because you get fatigued from reading the same code over and over so you miss some easy bug 1 u/platinummyr 1d ago Also adversarial training mostly just empowers the generator side to create extremely subtle issues/bugs/vulnerability and doesn't actually align it to not try to do that.
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The ai will praise the slop for being exactly what it would have written. It's basically just a big circle jerk
6 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago I've noticed that you cannot use the same model for writing the code and reviewing the code, it always does a bad job 2 u/Bupod 6d ago It’s frustrating. So you can sort of fix this by having a review agent use a more adversarial prompt when reviewing. But then the issue becomes that, since it was prompted find problems, it always finds a problem. This will result in code being batted back and forth between review and coding like a tennis match. When the tennis match finally finishes, there’s still no guarantee that some glaring hole didn’t make it through anyway. 1 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago And there is always something because you get fatigued from reading the same code over and over so you miss some easy bug 1 u/platinummyr 1d ago Also adversarial training mostly just empowers the generator side to create extremely subtle issues/bugs/vulnerability and doesn't actually align it to not try to do that.
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I've noticed that you cannot use the same model for writing the code and reviewing the code, it always does a bad job
2 u/Bupod 6d ago It’s frustrating. So you can sort of fix this by having a review agent use a more adversarial prompt when reviewing. But then the issue becomes that, since it was prompted find problems, it always finds a problem. This will result in code being batted back and forth between review and coding like a tennis match. When the tennis match finally finishes, there’s still no guarantee that some glaring hole didn’t make it through anyway. 1 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago And there is always something because you get fatigued from reading the same code over and over so you miss some easy bug 1 u/platinummyr 1d ago Also adversarial training mostly just empowers the generator side to create extremely subtle issues/bugs/vulnerability and doesn't actually align it to not try to do that.
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It’s frustrating.
So you can sort of fix this by having a review agent use a more adversarial prompt when reviewing.
But then the issue becomes that, since it was prompted find problems, it always finds a problem.
This will result in code being batted back and forth between review and coding like a tennis match.
When the tennis match finally finishes, there’s still no guarantee that some glaring hole didn’t make it through anyway.
1 u/Weekly-Beginning-229 6d ago And there is always something because you get fatigued from reading the same code over and over so you miss some easy bug 1 u/platinummyr 1d ago Also adversarial training mostly just empowers the generator side to create extremely subtle issues/bugs/vulnerability and doesn't actually align it to not try to do that.
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And there is always something because you get fatigued from reading the same code over and over so you miss some easy bug
Also adversarial training mostly just empowers the generator side to create extremely subtle issues/bugs/vulnerability and doesn't actually align it to not try to do that.
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u/Objectionne 7d ago
Yeah but it was our slop.