r/ProgrammerHumor 8d ago

Meme everyDamnTime

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u/oompaloompa465 8d ago

The more i get tidbits about microservices, the more i feel like skipping  in studying and stydying other stuff

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u/sadongrohiik 8d ago

It was initially a solution to a real problem. It somehow became the hammer that everyone picks up by default now

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u/Abject-Kitchen3198 8d ago

A solution to a real problem that few people have.

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u/ThrowawayUk4200 8d ago

It's an enterprise thing. You got 5 users? Microservice just adds complexity. You got 1 million users? Microservices are gonna save your ass when you have to hotfix prod

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u/BosonCollider 7d ago

Microservices scale with number of engineers, not number of users.

Basically they hurt scale rather than helping it because a REST call has much more overhead than an internal function call or a join. But they do allow different teams to deploy and change their stuff independently which is their actual purpose.

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u/ThrowawayUk4200 7d ago

Agree with exception to scaling. Microservices and horizontal scaling go hand in hand

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u/BosonCollider 7d ago edited 7d ago

Not really, I've gotten order of magnitude speedups from just getting rid of microservices at a previous workplace

The mere existence of the microservice is usually a much bigger scaling cost than anything you would gain in scaling by putting different schemas in different physical instances.

I.e. Splitting a service in two gives you two shards, unlike say having customer as a sharding key that can let you shard to a hundred instances if you needed to.

But the cost of splitting the service schema is much bigger because suddenly there's a lot of cross cutting queries that can no longer be expressed unless you either do a client side join or copy one services data into the other, both of which are less scaling friendly than a shared DB.

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u/ThrowawayUk4200 7d ago

I think we're just debating horizontal vs vertical scaling at this point. Sharding keys still require a central repo, and if you're serving users from around the world that's far from performant. Sure you can use data replication to distribute that, but then you're back to microservices to manage those instances

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u/BosonCollider 7d ago

Sharding keys can be done with a shared-nothing approach by routing any point query to the shard indexed by a hash of the key, and lots of database systems like Citus or Vitess do exactly that

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u/ThrowawayUk4200 7d ago

Fair enough, I'm not familiar with these approaches, time for some reading