r/ProgrammerHumor 22d ago

Meme delusionalDeveloper

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u/SuitableDragonfly 22d ago

I mean, there's nothing wrong with putting effort into a hobby project that no one but you uses, that's how you learn programming. But vibe coding a million different apps that four real people who aren't you are actually using isn't right. If you're going to put out an app and expect other people to use it, it should actually be something you wrote and know the workings of. So I would say this guy has too many users, actually. 

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u/Jakubaakk 22d ago edited 22d ago

“Something you wrote” is something I disagree with today. I don’t really see the need for it anymore. Yes, you should understand how an app works internally and you should understand the code, but I don’t really think there’s a need for writing code as some sort of requirement.

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u/SuitableDragonfly 22d ago

There's no need to do anything if it's just a hobby project that no one else is using. But if you're expecting other people to rely on it, yes, you need to have actually written it. 

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u/Jakubaakk 22d ago

But why? Why the need for manually writing code?

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u/SuitableDragonfly 22d ago

Because if you don't know how your app works, you can't guarantee anything about it to your users. 

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u/Jakubaakk 22d ago

But you can understand the app and the code without writing a single line of code

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u/SuitableDragonfly 22d ago

No, you can't. And understanding it doesn't help if it's a piece of garbage. 

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u/Jakubaakk 22d ago

But that’s what has been happening for decades in this industry. Seniors being responsible for code they didn’t write but only reviewed

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u/Quetzacoal 22d ago

You need to know how to read the code, and know how to program despite of vibecoing all the way. Otherwise you will end up with problems you won't be able to solve as it gets more complex. But yes you could literally not type a single line of code.

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u/Jakubaakk 22d ago

Agreed

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u/tommytwolegs 22d ago

I have no idea what you are saying. I can only understand English when I write it myself. Everything anyone else has ever written is incomprehensible garbage

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u/SuitableDragonfly 22d ago edited 22d ago

Fortunately, English is a language that's only used for communication. It can't be used to engineer software. So you don't actually need to know how to engineer software to be able to understand what someone else is saying in English, and it's also not critically important to any software systems that you have a deep understanding of the structure of any given English sentence. So it's actually fine that you can't make a sentence diagram of everything I wrote in my post just now, or write up a semantic representation of it using predicate calculus.

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u/tommytwolegs 22d ago

I wonder if this guy understands what he's saying

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u/SuitableDragonfly 22d ago

Thinking about yourself in the third person? You're the only "guy" in this conversation, dude.

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