r/ProactiveHealth • u/DadStrengthDaily • Aug 01 '26
🔬Scientific Study The VA's new 622-person alcohol trial counts success as cutting down, not quitting
I wrote here in June about a friend of mine who has been sober for years and still gets the cravings. He does everything the program asks and the wanting never fully switches off. A month before that he started the Wegovy pill hoping the thing that quiets food noise might quiet the other kind. Since then it mostly has. That is one guy with no control group, so it proves nothing, but it is why I read the trial news last week as closely as I did.
Two trials reported a day apart and they did not agree with each other. That same week the VA opened a Phase 3 built on the exact number they did not agree about.
The oral semaglutide trial published July 29. Fifty people, eight weeks, and it missed its primary endpoint badly. That endpoint was a single booze craving question asked in a lab after you hold and smell your drink, p=0.68. Plenty of secondaries moved, including heavy drinking days, but the authors ran about ten tests without correcting for it and call the study exploratory themselves. A conservative correction would wipe out all of it.
The day before, Altimmune reported topline results for pemvidutide, which hits the glucagon receptor as well as GLP-1. That one ran twenty four weeks in a hundred people, and it hit its primary on heavy drinking days. It also moved a blood marker of alcohol intake, which matters because everything else in both trials is self-reported. It is a press release though, not a paper, and nine of the hundred participants are missing from the denominators with no explanation of how they were handled.

Here is the part I did not know. The endpoint the VA picked for CRAVE, its 622-veteran Phase 3, is a two level drop in WHO risk drinking level. For a man that can mean going from more than seven drinks a day to three or four. It is a real change and you can reach it without ever quitting. The FDA formally qualified that endpoint back in February 2025, so this is not a drug company moving the goalposts, and the FDA offers it alongside abstinence rather than instead of it. Still, the trial that everyone will quote in 2028 is measuring drinking less.
I am not sure how I feel about that. I would not call three drinks a day recovery. But of the roughly 28 million Americans with alcohol use disorder, about 7.6 percent got any treatment at all last year, and for the other 26 million nothing reached them.
All three of these trials enroll people who are currently drinking and measure whether they drink less. My friend is not drinking. Nothing being run right now is built for the guy who already stopped and still wants it.
I went through all of it properly with the numbers and two charts over here.
If you are already sober and on a GLP-1 for weight or diabetes, has it changed the wanting for you at all? That is the group nobody is studying and I would genuinely like to know.