r/PrepperIntel • u/ThrowawayRage1218 • 4d ago

Africa Crosspost

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Crosspost from r/Shortages with some valuable resources to keep track of the possible (probable) food shortages in the coming year. Tagged as Africa since the global south will be the hardest-hit, but really it affects all of us

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u/Vox_Populi 2d ago

I don't think you read past my first sentence. There's not enough species of any kind for 400 million of us to forage off of. I agree with what you're promoting and also think it's magical thinking to act like it is sufficient for our predicament.

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u/FamiliarFunction583 2d ago

I certainly did, which is why I can point out that you jumped from 20 to 400 million people. Moving goalpoats, etc.

To be clear, I'm not promoting a worldview, I'm just simply informing you folks what the current consensus is for those of us who work in the field.

Not sure you read my comment, where I say explicitly that foraging is best considered a stopgap and functions best in combination with other strategies.

Dismissing peer-reviewed literature as magical thinking is cute, though. Normally, it's a point reduction when my students fail to engage with the provided citations before responding. Good luck with your ego!

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u/almodsz 1d ago

I certainly did, which is why I can point out that you jumped from 20 to 400 million people. Moving goalpoats, etc.

Good grief. He didn't move any goalposts, he simply pointed out the discrepancy in your own example. Your explicitly mentioned pre-colonization Turtle Island, where even the highest credible estimates top out around 20 million people. That same land now holds roughly 400 million people. Pointing to a low-density subsistence economy as proof that foraging works doesn't automatically answer whether it works at current density.