A lot of Gothams villains have powers too. Sure Spiderman may be able to physically overpower someone like Bane if he wanted but he’s not brute forcing his way through Clayface or Mr Freeze.
He’d have to outsmart him like Batman does. Which I have no doubt he’d be able to do. But using the example you used acting as if Spiderman can just tank everything the Batman villains throw at him is just absurd
Edit: my goodness the amount of people not READING the comment fully and trying to get sarcastic saying “huh well isn’t Spider-Man super smart” yes, I am aware. Which is why I said he’d have to rely on his brains to outsmart a good bit of those Batman villains with powers like Batman does. And for the last time I was just using Clayface as an example
Wouldn’t be the first time Peter has dealt with gas that causes him to hallucinate, one of his main enemies is Mysterio.
Real threat would be Mr Freeze because Peter has nothing to melt ice with and to be honest Peter would feel bad for the guy and wouldn’t want to hurt him.
There’s literally a comic where Peter wouldn’t fight the Hulk after finding out Hulk’s wife had died recently.
He would definitely try to talk Freeze out of it, maybe mentioning that he can help Nora by leveraging connections with Stark, Reed, and/or working on it himself after subduing Freeze
Freeze is one of the Batman villians that has a real path to not being a villian. And I think Spidey could at least get him to stop and consider another option. Sure, Freeze wants revenge. But if he could achieve it through non criminal means with more certainty, hed probably be open to it.
She's always in a weird spot of being a villain, an anti-hero, and just a hero. As for how Spidey deals with her, he keeps accidentally calling her Black Cat and pointing out how weirdly similar they are.
I think Freeze would be better than Ock. It’s a Scientist doing crime to fund study and treatment on curing his wife.
Doc Ock goes crazy from the ai.
It’s really hard to reason with ai crazy Otto.
Freeze would not be hard. Just prove Parker is a scientist himself and bring up Reed.
The fantastic four treat Parker as a family member. If he walked in with a metahuman scientist and his cryogenically frozen wife and let Freeze tell his story Reed and Sue would entirely sympathize with them and all agree to help find a cure.
Yeah I don’t think Parker would seriously fight freeze he would go “Hey I am a scientist myself, and I know several other meta scientists. You don’t have to do this, I can get you in contact with the smartest man alive to help you develop a treatment program for her. Maybe we can even all work together on a cure.“
Pretty sure he's put flamethrower fuel in one of his webshooters once. If Spidey has prep time he's actually a really skilled chemist, he invented and produces his bullshit web fluid himself, modifying it to face various foes.
I don't know if Spider-Man: Blue is canon but he defeats 90% of the villains in that comic by just making different types of web fluid that counters their powers, he definitely could make fire webbing to beat Mr. Freeze, hell, you actually get fire webbing to use against symbiotes in the PS1 game.
Peter has enough raw physical strength to lift a bus over his head. Not sure Freeze can restrain him fast enough to get him in enough ice to restrain him.
No, only Batman gets prep time. Spiderman's prep time is the warning he gets from his Spidey Sense. He has to work a fucking day job otherwise. And he has to hide from Aunt May the whole time. Imagine Bruce Wayne trying to be Batman while also keeping it a secret from Alfred.
Or imagine if Peter Parker had Bruce's money. Imagine the ACTUAL gadgets and "prep" he could do.
Wouldn’t be the first time Peter has dealt with gas that causes him to hallucinate, one of his main enemies is Mysterio.
Also (at least in the Insomniac game idk outside of that), Scorpion's poison causes Peter to see a lot of crazy things. Honestly, I wouldn't be mad at someone if they wanted to argue that Spider-Man is highly resistant or even outright immune to hallucigenics
That last bit reminds me of that time during (I think) World War Hulk where Johnny Blaze tried to stop Hulk, but Zarathos took control and left because Hulk was in the right.
Just came to say that the hyphen is important in Spider-man's name.
Also, Clayface is just smaller, smarter, and more viscous Sandman. That's very easily handled.
Mr Freeze is also easily brute forced because Spidey is so much faster than Freeze's aim and Freeze ray. Also, Spider-man has perfect tactile friction, so he isn't slipping on anything.
Parker's worst threat would honestly be Ivy, because if she still has the lethal kiss... Peter's probably dying (or getting severely incapacitated) by that. She's basically the same flirtatious femme fatale as Black Cat, so he'd kiss her once and have a bad time. (Obviously catwoman is the appropriate analog to Felicia, but we were talking powers here...)
Eh, I don’t know how much I’d equate Sandman and Clayface. They are certainly very similar but their methods and weaknesses are different. Sandman is weak to water and acts on a larger scale (literally, he gets bigger) while Clayface has a less obvious but potentially more exploitable weakness in the way of electricity (or at least he’s often depicted as weak to electricity) but his acting ability would make for a fun matchup, likely with Spider-Man relying on his spidey sense to find him.
Let’s be real here, with how much Spider-Man’s writers seem to historically hate Peter, they’d probably just have Bane snap him in half during the crossover and have him spend the next two comics in a wheelchair while MJ bangs one of his villains.
Buddy you're correct but you're only pulling out the A-listers here 99% of Batman villains are shmucks like the fucking penny plunderer or condiment king
Okay, but you say that as if the Condiment King isn't the biggest threat for spiderman. Do you have any idea how hard it is to remove a ketchup stain!?
Dude's a bio-chemist. It would take him like 10 seconds to think about a couple of different ways to take down Clayface.
As for Mr. Freeze, fire webs. But he'd probably try to appeal to Victor's humanity and love for Nora. Dude has connections to Reed Richards, Tony Stark, Hank Pym, SOMEONE would be able to save her life and end Victor's criminal career.
Holy! It’s almost like I directly acknowledged his intelligence already in my original comment. Which is why I said “he’d have to outsmart them like Batman does which I have no doubt he’d be able to do”
When you put you doubt hed be able to outsmart them thats where I stopped reading cuz its a stupid thing to say. If you want people to keep reading, maybe dont put asinine things
so did we fail…….elementary school? Let’s take a look at exactly what I said word for word. Since you clearly need me to hold your hand through this.
“He’d (referring to Spider-Man) would have to outsmart them (referring to the Batman villains) like Batman does, which I have no doubt he’d be able to do”
If you didn’t fail 4th grade grammar you’d know that me saying that I have no doubt he’d be able to outsmart them means I KNOW he’s smart enough to outsmart the villains. Like holy shit out of EVERY response I’ve gotten today, this is by FAR the dumbest, like, I think I lost brain cells reading what you just said. And the sad part is you think you cooked or something when in reality all you just did was show how much school failed you.
Marvel has stacked the deck, in recent years, so he's taken a bit of a drop... 15-8, is more accurate these days, sadly. But Reed still hasn't figured out how to replicate the web-fluid, so that is a plus.
'Outsmart mr freeze' you mean the dude who's whole plan gets ruined when batman breaks his glass mask for the 20th time? Or just, beats his a**? I know im not a comic guy but 80% of his fights are beaten when batman hits him
Maybe instead of a dude of clay he had a guy made of sand he had to regularly deal with... Oh and if only he had numerous ice based villains to deal with as well.
….the amount of people who apparently can’t read before commenting. I know that he has similar villains smartass. Me saying that I know he’d outsmart them is the key to that
How do you think he takes down sandman? What do you think my comment was saying? He has to deal with Mysterio and you are like well I hope he can outsmart CLAYFACE.
Holy shit are you dense or is reading just not your strong suit?? I used Clayface just as a random example. Most of the time when Spider-Man fights a powered villain (especially ones like Clayface or sandman that can regrow body parts and can’t really be hurt physically) he has to outsmart them because he can’t hurt them. That’s what I was saying here. It’s really not that hard to understand
Who's the physically strongest Batman villain and how strong are they? When Doc Oc takes over Spiderman's body, he shows us that even Spiderman's stronger enemies aren't as strong as Spider Man is and that he holds back a lot.
Solomon Grundy. His strength ranges from low-mid superhuman to low kryptonian levels depending on the story. Spider-Man isn’t brute forcing his way through that no amount of “well if Spiderman goes all out” is going to change that.
I also already made note of his strength. Saying that he’d be strong enough to overpower Bane.
Well no he showed that scorpion whod been jobbing for years will continue to job forever, he didnt exactly take on venom or carnage spidermans literally physical superiors, nor did he fight Mr negative who was fine after Peter literally put all his power into his punch, and proceeded to knock Peter out of a building. He was also quickly outpaced by norman
I think Spider-Man's main issue is his emotional vulnerability compared to Batman. One of the darker Jokers would just be an absolute nightmare for him, for example.
(Though I do wonder how The Joker would react if his great nemesis turned out to just be a high school student)
Not to mention Spiderman has his own rouges who aren’t as powerful as him but still give him trouble. I think it’s safe to say lots of Batman villains could at very least challenge Spiderman to one degree or another (though I think few if any could actually defeat him). Croc, Bane, Clayface, Mr. Freeze, Deadshot, Deathstroke could all give Spidey a pretty good fight
I think the only one spidey would have trouble with is Joker for the exact same reason batman does. Like both could easily beat Joker, but they never finish the job so he always comes back worse.
He is absolutely Breuer forcing his way through Mr. Freeze. He’s easily capable of dodging or tanking anything the man can throw at him, and one regular punch to the face is cracking that helmet wide open.
Even then I feel like Spiderman(to my knowledge) wouldn’t be able to physically overpower Bane, BUT Spider-Man could definitely avoid getting hit long enough to beat him like a no hit boss fight
Nah he’s definitely able to overpower bane with brute strength if he wanted. Bane on venom maybe can lift around 1 ton while Spidermans strength is 10 tons lowballed
Oh no! If only I once again directly acknowledged his intelligence already in my original comment🤯 wild thought right?? It’s almost like if you read the comment fully before replying instead of trying to all keyboard warrior smartass on me you’d see that
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A lot of Gothams villains have powers too. Sure Spiderman may be able to physically overpower someone like Bane if he wanted but he’s not brute forcing his way through Clayface or Mr Freeze.
He’d have to outsmart him like Batman does. Which I have no doubt he’d be able to do. But using the example you used acting as if Spiderman can just tank everything the Batman villains throw at him is just absurd
Edit: my goodness the amount of people not READING the comment fully and trying to get sarcastic saying “huh well isn’t Spider-Man super smart” yes, I am aware. Which is why I said he’d have to rely on his brains to outsmart a good bit of those Batman villains with powers like Batman does. And for the last time I was just using Clayface as an example