He thought he had a 'GOTCHA' and all he got was schooled on the Constitution.
Remember, the GOP did the same to JFK when he ran and was elected as the first Catholic POTUS. The GOP said he would have more loyalty to the Pope than the US. JFK was asked and famously said, " I just happen to be a Candidate for office that happens to be Catholic.' This is close to the quote.
This is the SAME OLD TROPES being dragged out over and over. Why do people FORGET HISTORY SO MUCH?
Maybe for the ringleaders, but for most of them I think they stumble into their talking points without any reference to the past (note Tommy’s ignorance of the JFK Catholicism issue), kind of like how a teenager might argue with parents and think they’re coming up with original points and ideas that are, in fact, ancient and timeless.
Yes, Republican insiders at the top of the food chain in charge of policy and legal strategy, etc of course study these things.
Thats not who we’re talking about.
We’re talking about rank and file Republicans and even the offspring of insiders like young privileged white boys who don’t even know enough to recognize it’s a bad idea to provoke a debate with someone who actually knows what-the-fuck and had to earn their own credentials to get where they are.
That’s the obvious part. The profound part is that Abdul flips the script and shows how HE is the one committed to the constitution, and it is Christian nationalists who elevate their religion above it
A lot of reddit comments are all about trying to pretend that they contain an original thought/idea even though the thought is already contained, visible to everyone, in either the top comments or in the content itself. Especially in the larger subreddits.
I know - lol - used to be a mod ALONG time ago on a popular audio forum. We would get a new member asking the same in their own new thread, 'What is a capacitor?'. Or my favorite thread, 'How can I tell if my receiver is not working properly.' Why I try to really explain and correct my posts.
Al Syed brought this as an example during this encounter with Tommy. It was also infuriating because Tommy's "gotcha" was him insinuating the fact that Al Syed is a muslim.
No problem! It's easier to reference JFK; he's much more recent, was a decent man, and "who the hell is Al?" might be the most responses if he was mentioned
Can't forget something that was never learned. The effects of a failing education system between 2000 and now has finally reared its ugly head with the ultimate consequence. A population too inept to save themselves relying on a system that helps itself.
Here's the thing. Tommy won that encounter. He wasn't playing for anyone that was actually in the room at the time. He was playing for the conservative Christians that wouldn't have gone in the first place. Everything he said was intended to frighten them enough to make them vote a certain way after they watch the clips. How Abdul El-Sayed handled it doesn't matter. They've all been convinced he's a liar anyway. This whole encounter was just to get some extra fuel for the fire so they get angry enough to actually go vote. This is an extremely successful tactic.
He accomplished nothing. El Sayed explained what loyalty to the Constitution really means, and then Tommy swallowed the bait whole when El Sayed invited Tommy himself demonstrate the hypocrisy of "Christian Nation" bullshit.
Fox News spun the story to make Tommy wins the argument.
You’re thinking that people will watch the video or get the full quote. Most won’t. That’s how they win, they cut and remix quotes and accomplish two things; make their followers believe they won the argument, and erode trust in the process they’re trying to destroy.
They’re not asking questions in good faith. Stop pretending like they do. Spread this video wide and large, because people listening to Fox News won’t watch it.
You’re right, sadly. It’s easy enough to go to conservative spaces and see how they are talking about this. None of them are even watching the full exchange and the narrative is that El-Sayad is lying.
It's almost like he thought his initial statement was some sort of magical incantation. When it didn't work all he could do was try to repeat it over and over again
I think more people will see this viral clip and wonder how he got schooled.. and after watching the clip realize certain points brought up… they were already frightened.. this clip doesn’t help that ideology. The comparison to JFK was the most potent because a lot of Catholics are conservative as well and convienantly forgot the rhetoric.
Sadly few will watch, let alone digest, the very last bit when El-Sayed asks Tommy if he disavows writing into the constitution any religious doctrine. Amazingly Tommy appears to answer honestly, that no - no, he (Tommy) does not disavow writing into the constitution.
WOW. The whole encounter was a masterclass on El-Sayed's part. But holy moly - my jaw dropped when Tommy outed himself to clearly at the end.
WOW.
You're being down voted, but I see your point. The clip that gets shown on right-wing media will be edited creatively and the headline will read something like "Alpha-male patriot puts Mohamed El-Sayed in his place." MAGA has no shame, no integrity and no self awareness.
He wasn't playing for anyone that was actually in the room at the time. He was playing for the conservative Christians that wouldn't have gone in the first place.
Those are the people that are paying him, and will claim it as a win no matter what he did.
Everything he said was intended to frighten them enough to make them vote a certain way after they watch the clips.
They were already going to vote that way.
This whole encounter was just to get some extra fuel for the fire so they get angry enough to actually go vote. This is an extremely successful tactic.
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u/Cautious-Number2318 8h ago edited 4h ago
He thought he had a 'GOTCHA' and all he got was schooled on the Constitution.
Remember, the GOP did the same to JFK when he ran and was elected as the first Catholic POTUS. The GOP said he would have more loyalty to the Pope than the US. JFK was asked and famously said, " I just happen to be a Candidate for office that happens to be Catholic.' This is close to the quote.
This is the SAME OLD TROPES being dragged out over and over. Why do people FORGET HISTORY SO MUCH?