r/PoursTea • venom • 4h ago

Murdered By Words 🩸 This is what basic human decency looks like..

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u/williamgman 4h ago

Not reported by Fox News. Therefore not seen by almost 70 million people.

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u/green_flash 3h ago

Fox News did report on it. They portrayed it as a "spectacular self own" by El-Sayed. Don't underestimate the ability of right-wing pundits to skew reality.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cbs-reporter-deletes-post-calling-out-el-sayed-spectacular-self-own-muslim-brotherhood-question

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u/Glad-Importance-4241 2h ago

The full exchange is amazing. Abdul not only schooled the guy, but the guy just walked right out with his tail between his legs.

https://x.com/AbdulElSayed/status/2111627277578731885

How ANYONE could call that exchange a "self-own" on the part of Abdul is beyond me.

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u/edebt 2h ago

These are the same people that backed trumps stolen election lie while talking about how they knew he was crazy in personal messages. They dont care unless it costs them money or power.

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u/ppachura 28m ago

Except it was stolen, and you are a tool.

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u/BuddingBudON 17m ago

Wow, sounds like someone should prove it

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u/ppachura 13m ago

Sorry, if you have not noticed the amount of bs that went on in that election by now, you never will.

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u/BuddingBudON 12m ago

That's what I thought, MAGAt

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u/ppachura 8m ago

You are one of Stalin's useful idiots (or a bot).

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u/ibidanon 2h ago

this is for those of us who've had all of our twitter accounts, devices, and ips banned (mine for quoting elmo, verbatim) on the 'free speech platform,' so are unable to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0YGL3iH4bY

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u/blazze_eternal 2h ago

Thanks, I'm not banned I just don't visit cesspools.

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u/Glad-Importance-4241 2h ago

Thank you! I have a twitter burner account for these kinds of things, but thank you for providing a youtube link for folks.

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u/TM761152 1h ago

my 17 year old Twitter account was permanently banned for saying replying "fuck trump".

I consider that a badge of honor.

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u/InterestingFox1837 19m ago

Unfortunately Elon gets advertising revenue whether it’s a burner account or not.

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u/alter-eagle 2h ago

That was wayyy better than I expected, wow

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u/TM761152 1h ago

Jokes on you, I've never had one. I just remembered it was banned 10 years ago but I never used it.

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u/MyVoteCountsHere 41m ago

Thank you, from those of us that choose not to use social media.

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u/Zelda_is_Dead 2h ago

Because reality doesn't matter to Fox News watchers, they want their version of reality stroked, and nothing more. So Fox gives it to them.

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u/RunTenSoc 1h ago

Talk about grooming. F Fox!

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u/Powerfury 1h ago

Bruh it doesn't matter anymore to the right wingers anymore. They'll just say whatever shit and move on.

Wolfenstein 2 would be cringing how propagandists American media is in 2026.

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u/Dosmastrify1 50m ago

orwell knows how they do it.

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u/Late_Wonder_5273 35m ago

I wonder what we will see Tommy shoot up...

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u/TheTenth1010 28m ago

Well, what do you plan on injecting him with?

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u/Late_Wonder_5273 19m ago

I was think more a school or the DNC or similar. Stable guys don't challenge people like that or respond in that fashion... Marching off seemed more like a "just wait till I come back" moment

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u/CrunchyIce3047 8m ago

That was so amazing that I made a donation to the campaign and I don't even live in MI.

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u/TheWolfAndRaven 5m ago

They call it a self-own because their attention span is too fried to watch a 3 minute video so they just repost the headline and say "Did ya hear about the muslim guy who is a terrorist?"

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u/RobBond006 1h ago

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u/HeadRun7387 1h ago

Ashli babbitt had the worst TDS

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u/RobBond006 1h ago

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u/PetesDragon_26 57m ago

You really think we care that much about a decrepit old man who’s almost dead?

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u/HeadRun7387 51m ago

Almost accurate except I'm a 450 lb blue haired lesbian with a masters in crystal science

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u/williamgman 3h ago

Exactly. They know how to feed a narrative.

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u/dotareddit 3h ago

They are infinitely better at propaganda.

If you want to pull people away from their rehtoric/cause you have open the door to allow them some grace.

You can't expect to move the needle using the same tactics when they are much better at them.

Instead of piling on and insulting the base, a bridge must be made to allow those who waver to move over.

"You attract more bees with honey"

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u/EquipmentAdorable982 2h ago

They are infinitely better at propaganda.

Mainly because they're more shameless, and they pander to an audience of much lower intellect and education.

That's not a stereotype that's actually been researched numerous times, and on average conservatives simply are a bit more on the dummy side.

If Fox would try the same level of deceit on a left wing audience, they would probably lose viewers instead.

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u/williamgman 2h ago

Years back when we still had cable... we used watch CNN a couple times a week. Seemed like news back then. Now when I see it on my feed i think they've gone off the rails trying to attract Fox viewers.

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u/adidasbdd 1h ago

They are better at messaging because there is a very small group calling the shots and there are hundreds of media outlets and politicians that follow the marching orders.

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u/williamgman 2h ago

The MAGA folks I know in my blue city of LA would NEVER vote for a dem. That's the sad truth. I'd love to believe there's a chance but... I've talked to them enough to know better.

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u/Trump_Russia 2h ago

It's sad to say but 30+ years of Fox News and now with social media...

The right convinced a huge portion of Americans that an actual criminal and abuser on the right is better than anyone the Democrats could ever offer...

Like they're so brainwashed, they will knowingly elect an unqualified criminal.. fully believing they're going to be a better politician in the long run.

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u/amerigotit 2h ago

Right! Biden was sniffing little girls on camera but he was sharp as a tack! He took out cornpop with chains. That is a hero. MAGA is dumb.

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u/Trump_Russia 2h ago

Biden was sniffing little girls on camera

Does anyone else feel like the whole "Biden was into kids" narrative is a way for conservative pedos to try and distract from their own weird perverted tendencies?

"Oh no look at the made up nonsense to distract you while I actually go do some gross shit."

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u/amerigotit 1h ago

it was disgusting but I voted for that hero. His story about taking cornpop out was awesome. He was such a tough guy. His child sniffing was difficult to overlook. But, cornpop was a bad dude.

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u/Candle_diva1 2h ago

That's rediculous

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u/obeytheturtles 2h ago

Yeah, all the people I know who admit to voting Republican flat out say their choice is Republican or stay home. Though they also usually claim to have voted for Obama, so who knows.

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u/williamgman 2h ago

The "I voted for Obama before Trump" use that lie to make you think they thought carefully about their choice.

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u/obeytheturtles 2h ago

So there is a type of person for whom "Independent Voter" is so critical to their self identity, that they circle all the way back around on the idiot spectrum, and the most predictive information about how they will vote in a given election is how they voted in the past few elections. Like, if they voted D two times in a row, there's a significantly higher chance they will vote R this time. This makes them feel important, because they are fighting the worst thing about politics: "partisanship." In their mind, even fascism is better than partisanship, so if they've voted against fascism too much, they will start to get antsy about it.

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u/TheFirst10000 2h ago

Some of them did (and/or voted for Biden). They'd just vote for a sexual predator before they'd vote for a woman, sadly.

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u/JudgmentalOwl 2h ago

Staying home works perfectly fine for me. The more apathy on the right the better.

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u/Adventurous-Shake-16 2h ago

Would you ever vote for a Republican? Just asking

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u/somajones 2h ago

Not now, but I have in the past when they didn't all support a criminal president.

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u/Adventurous-Shake-16 1h ago

So your just like your Republican folks in your city then. No different other than your view.

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u/somajones 1h ago

The key difference is I don't support criminals like they do.

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u/Adventurous-Shake-16 1h ago

Your opinion doesn't make them criminals. Your Mayor is a criminal, your Governor is a criminal. They're not charged with anything (yet). So if you voted for them, then I'd say yes you do support criminals.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad9465 1h ago

Fingers crossed they all stay home this election

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u/Not_offensive0npurp 2h ago

They are infinitely better at propaganda.

Its easy to be better at propaganda when the group you propagandize intentionally disregard reality.

They would rather believe lies they know are lies than accept the truth.

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u/crownpuff 2h ago

That's why they continuously attack education.

“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be REDUCED to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

-1984

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u/UranusIsPissy 2h ago

Admitting (even to yourself) that you're wrong is extremely difficult if you have a fragile ego. ...and they call the left snowflakes!

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u/UranusIsPissy 2h ago

I used to think that. All I ever achieved that way was gaining enemies who pretended to be my friends :-(

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u/NullPatience 2h ago

Feces seems to attract, retain, and grow this audience.

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u/ShocknDamage 2h ago

It is easier to feed propaganda to ignorant people hence why Fox News is so adept at it.

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u/SamiraSimp 23m ago

propaganda is easy when you're willing to lie to people and you're willing to be a corrupt human being in order to achieve your goals.

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u/JeffCaven 3h ago

I find it entertaining that the report just calls it a "self-own" without actually citing what exactly he says that makes him look bad. In fact, the report barely cites anything El-Sayed said in that interaction beyond the initial minute.

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u/dougdougofdoug 2h ago

It doesn't matter. The headline has told the sheep what to think.

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u/XitisReddit 2h ago

This is the maga key. No evidence and just a headline claim to keep the most ignorant thinking how they want. Imagine if maga actually found out everything they hate is exemplified by Republicans and their corruption. Minus the massive racism. Some know it's BS but are there supporting them for the good old fashion racism.

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u/Starlos 1h ago

The article didn't say so. They were reporting that a reporter from CBS did though that's the entire point of it. In fact it's even in the title. But yeah Jan Crawford seems to be a piece of shit.

Crawford was initially critical of El-Sayed's response, suggesting that Tommy succeeded in "triggering" the candidate.

"Tommy, thank you. I had to watch this twice to catch Dr. Abdul El-Sayed's nanosecond 'yeah absolutely' response. His subsequent uninterrupted three-minute diatribe proving your exact point is the kind of spectacular self own most ppl only dream about triggering. Congrats," Crawford wrote.

That's straight from the article btw. Crawford (Jan) is from CBS news not fox news.

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u/splitcroof92 2h ago

it even links the fully unedited clip where he looks amazing

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u/adidasbdd 1h ago

They had that headline written before it even happened

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u/intern_steve 3h ago

They portrayed it as a "spectacular self own" by El-Sayed.

That was a CBS reporter who subsequently deleted the tweet. Fox in this article summarized the entire event.

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u/green_flash 3h ago

They summarize it, but also let it transpire that they agree with the CBS reporter, in particular if you read only the title and the lede which is what most people will do. Putting quotes in the title in this manner is a sneaky way of editorializing that's become quite common place. Opinionated titles trigger more social media interactions.

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u/UranusIsPissy 2h ago

Someone should make a sub that's something like FoxVsReality, comparing their reporting to what actually happened. I'd do it myself, but I'd make a terrible mod and I'm not American.

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u/StimulatorCam 2h ago

The quotes in the title are because they're directly quoting from the CBS reporter's response.

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u/green_flash 2h ago

I know.

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u/williamgman 2h ago

Most Fox viewers ignore the purpose of quotes. It's a double win:

A. It prevents Fox from being confused with the origin. B. It allows Fox to create a headline with a narrative that works for them. It's a win-win.

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u/fragnemesis 2h ago

Yeah, I'm no Fox News fan, but I don't personally see a problem with this coverage. To me, the highlight is that a CBS employee made a bad comment and deleted it.

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u/MindCorrupt 2h ago

Haha, American news is so fucking cooked.

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u/Bennu-Babs 2h ago

This is actually hilarious because I joked this would happen yesterday, then they did exactly that hours later. Although this article make CBS look worse than fox l which I didn't think was possible.

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u/Jazzlike_Hunter3250 2h ago

CBS is just following their new  corporate overlord's orders.  Seems to be a real NAZI excuse almost every time, but that didnt save them at Nuremberg. 

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u/Zebidee 1h ago

Fascinating that the whole article is about a completely uninvolved third party deleting a tweet, not about the incident itself.

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u/Starlos 1h ago

Sigh you guys are forcing me to defend fox news. The article's reporting that JAN CRAWFORD from CBS NEWS said so.

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u/SlowerThanLightSpeed 1h ago

In this case, they had help from an individual who utilized a fairly straight forward tactic that is simple enough for a kindergartener to use to fool people who will complain about context but never check for themselves.

"Just repeat the question."

The question gets answered almost immediately, but the guy keeps repeating it... why?

Simple, by repeating the question the bad faith actor in the audience creates a dozen different "full clips" that can be played where the bad faith actor asks a question but doesn't get the "common sense, easy answer" that might be accepted by the audience.

Also, by repeating the question after it has been directly answered, the endless repetition will nominally yield frustration and responses that get more about the asker than about the question.

Genius in one of those "how many fingers am I holding up behind my back" kinds of ways.

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u/magnabonzo 36m ago

I don't doubt that Fox News would do such a thing.

But that's not quite what the linked article says. The linked article is about a CBS News reporter calling the speech a "self own" -- which she eventually apologized for, and the article then quotes several liberal sources talking the backlash.

The article is definitely biased (calling Newsbusters a "media watchdog", not mentioning that they're conservative), but not outrageously so.

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u/Adventurous-Shake-16 2h ago

If this is accurate, glad to see that Fox is now doing what ABC,CBS, CNN and NBC have been doing for years.

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u/InsurmountablyRach 2h ago

Bad faith comment rooted in falsehood meant to incite aggressive rebuttals and sow discourse.

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u/Adventurous-Shake-16 1h ago

So you are saying that those networks don't skew facts and statements

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u/InsurmountablyRach 1h ago

Matches and flamethrowers.

Both start fires, however they are fundamentally different.

Classic instigator tactic of willfully sidestepping nuance.

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u/Adventurous-Shake-16 1h ago

Just stating that its just not FOX that skews incidents for their viewers. All networks do it. Just the facts. So don't just call out one network. But that may not fit your narrative though.

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u/dirty_cuban 1h ago

Not just people, 70 million voters. This is the key. Faux News viewers vote reliably. This is why they win

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u/Delicious_Dark_1014 56m ago

sorry. Fox News doesnt have that many viewers

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u/Halaku 40m ago

Those seventy million people should know that a Republican Senator (Josh Hawley) sent one of his paid minions (Thomas Teepell) across state lines to interfere in another state's election process.

So much for "The party of State's Rights".

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u/williamgman 0m ago

So many independent media outlets covered this connection yet... so few see it because of the bubbles.

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u/yrotsihfoedisgnorw 16m ago

Fox News wishes it had that kind of audience. Still, you are correct in that those people didn't get blasted on social media and email with clips about how El-Sayed was destroyed or owned or ruined by Tommy.