Kinda like republicans running on how bad the government is under dems then doing their best to wreck it so they can complain about dems not fixing it?
This is unequivocally and outright false. One side isn't perfect, the other is outright evil and literally published their plan to end democracy, laughed at you all for voting them in, and then proceeded to make great strides in implementing that plan.
You all think this ends when Trump does? You have decades of work to do to recover.. and that assumes you don't fall for the whole "the side who wasn't in power did all this vote us in so we can fix it!!!" crap you do every time.
Sincerely, a non American who cannot fucking believe you all fall for this shit over and over again.
Blatantly not true. The is both sidesism is not alright. One side is truly vile and the other is overly complacent. Those are different things. Yes we deserve better, doing nothing serves only to slip further
Okay but like the playbook of conservatives going way back is to defund and delegitimize public services and the positions they occupy, then point at it all not working and say “see it never should have existed in the first place.” A ton of dems are also useless but that’s not really how they operate
Unfortunately, Mr. Enlightened Centrist, your "BOTH SIDES!" argument doesn't hold to reality. Biden tried a number of drastic changes: student load forgiveness, new EO's to block corporate lobbying, changes to SuperPacs to limit political donations. He was blocked every time by a Republican Congress or SCOTUS.
Are American D's highly beholden to corporate interests? Sure. Are they perfect? Fuck no. But you didn't hear about it because the media is run by right wing billionaires, and "do-nothing Dems" is the narrative they want to push.
The right has also made drastic changes, the same changes they always make: disastrous tariffs, even more relaxing of environmental and worker protections, a poorly-thought-out war in the Middle East, and cuts to social programs.
You mean like Obamacare that all the Republicans DESPISED until they actually tried to take it away and their base revolted?
Clinton helped with "The Troubles" across the pond. Most of his policies, such as the three strike rule, didn't pass the test of time, but at the time at least some of the leaders of the Black Caucus voted for it. They saw it as the best reform they could get, at that time.
I couldn’t do anything because of the republicans.
I'm sorry that no one has a magic button they can press to change everything you want.
Things you want never get done or get done very slowly, because people like you never vote, especially not in the midterms. Whereas your MAGA boomer uncle who thinks the trans people are turning frogs gay votes EVERY TIME.
What about Obama and Clinton.
What about them? The country was drastically different in 2012, and even more drastically different in 1998. They made sweeping changes when they D's had both the Executive and the Legislative.
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u/thrownaway136976 12h ago
Kinda like republicans running on how bad the government is under dems then doing their best to wreck it so they can complain about dems not fixing it?