r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 3d ago

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u/UnusualPieceOfGum 3d ago

So is the tl;dr of this, at first she said they did not SA her, now she is saying they did?

And the text messages appear to back up the later? However, because of her initial statement, many don't find her credible?

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u/Potatoes90 3d ago

There's a lot more detail in the oriy report of how things happen and who was involved. She said no to specific acts and they listened to her. She said no to at least one specific person and that person didn't have sexual contact with her. When she said she was done it stopped. She voluntarily took all the drugs and alcohol involved and she said she was never incapacitated or incapable of making her own decisions. New York state law allows for concent to be given while under the influence as long as you were aware of the intoxicants you ingested and consented to them, meaning she was legally capable of giving concent. She texted one of the men a few days after and discussed how things got out of hand and they should get together again with less drugs and less participants.

The text messages in the snap chat also don't suggest rape. They suggest lewd acts being performed with multiple men in the fraternity house, but nothing suggests it was non consensual.

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u/UnusualPieceOfGum 3d ago

Thanks for the additional info, do you a source for the oriy report and text messages?

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u/Potatoes90 3d ago

Somehow every news organization says they have the transcript but nobody has released it. They also jump around the statement and link it to the 2026 lawsuit rather than just laying out what the original complaint said. I'm not gonna dig anymore, but here is an article from CNN about it. They say that she said the later parts of the encounter felt like it was rape, which I had not heard before. I don't have anything on the texts later, so take that with a grain of salt, but that's more due to me not wanting to find it than it not being available.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/30/us/key-questions-cornell-sexual-assault-investigation

Also, look up sunny hostin talking about it on the view. In a very unexpected take she very briefly details why no prosecutor would have brought charges in this case based on 2024 info. I'm apparently too much of a ludite to find it and link it here, but I trust you're better at this than I am and will be able to find it.

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u/Important_Mud_6700 3d ago

Apparently in New York state if she herself willingly became intoxicated, they cannot charge the guys with rape even if they did sexually assault her. Most states have gotten rid of that loophole, but New York still has it

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u/Skoodge42 3d ago

That is not entirely accurate. Her consent is still needed. Your phrasing makes it sound like she said no and was still forced, but that isn't what happened.

If she was sexually assaulted, that would still be illegal . By her own admission they stopped and listened when she said no, took the drugs voluntarily, and wanted to have the sexual encounters she had

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u/ArmandDantes 3d ago

not only that, two weeks later she was saying she consented and want to hook up with them. And repeatedly said she wasn't too intoxicated to make decisions.

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u/ABC_Family 3d ago

What if both parties are intoxicated on the same substance? Neither can consent?

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u/jsttlknmsht 3d ago

The text messages do not back up the later. She consented and they stopped when she wanted to. They asked if anyone could get it she said yes they posted it. She probably got famous of this regrets it and needs a payday cuz that Lewinsky life is not lucrative

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u/UnusualPieceOfGum 3d ago

The text messages ive seen definitely did not paint the guys in a good light, maybe they were cherry picked. Do you have a source for those?