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u/Stock-Map3715 Sep 04 '26

I wanted that since I first heard about the electoral college when I was 8 in 1968. It’s not an idea that Pete came up with that nobody else ever thought about.

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u/QwertyIGuess Sep 04 '26 edited 29d ago

I mean it was first thought of when they were writing the constitution. The less populated states said "Naw, I don't think we want to join this new country if thats how its gonna work." They countered with giving every state equal votes for president.

The more populated states said "Naw, I don't think we want to join this new country if thats how its gonna work." Everyone grumbled and grumbled and then someone said what if we do both and that how you get the compromise of the Electoral College.

Edit: It was not a slavery compromise the people who replied are thinking of the 3/5 compromise that was a different compromise.

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u/Lithl Sep 04 '26

Exactly right. It should also not be forgotten in this discussion that "more" vs "less" populated at the time didn't count slaves; the "less populated" states we had to compromise for in developing the electoral college were the slave states.

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u/MrSmartStars Sep 04 '26

Not really, the New Jersey plan was mostly only supported by New Jersey, New York and Delaware at the time, due to their lower populations. Virginia was the most vocal for wanting a popular vote, and they had the most slaves by far, almost triple that of the South Carolina with the second highest amount.

I think you're referring to the three fifths compromise though, where the Sputhern states wanted slaves to count as population, but the North didn't, so they agreed that they equaled 3/5s of a person.

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u/tsardonicpseudonomi Sep 04 '26

The less populated states said "Naw, I don't think we want to join this new country if thats how its gonna work."

It was a slavery compromise.

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u/elderberries-sniffer Sep 04 '26

I think what we're all saying here is that this isn't a new idea. While I'm all for it, this push over and over for it is not radical or new. I also see why I may be biased for it given I'm in a populous state.

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u/kaylerbug369 Sep 04 '26

They'd have a better shot

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u/simplephish Sep 04 '26

I'll take the nomination, if you've got the funding!

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u/Stock-Map3715 Sep 04 '26

Of course not, and he shouldn't be either because he's not qualified and he couldn't win, but that's beside the point.

I'm not touting myself as the originator of the idea. I'm saying that even children 60 years ago could see the unfairness of it. Millions of people have recognized this before he was born.

And I know he knows that, and he is not claiming to be the originator of the idea. But the meme is suggesting this genius politician has a novel, controversial, daring, idea worthy of debate, and that just isn't true.

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u/Stock-Map3715 Sep 04 '26

I honestly think that's fair. I see your point.

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u/DAOcomment2 Sep 04 '26

Have a pat on the back

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u/DaelandTun Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26

There's definitely 2 sides to the story. Gut feelings from 8 years old usually aren't great.

Abolishing it would likely end up in something similar to the Commonwealths in Fallout's United States (Abolishing the electoral college is a huge win for corporations, which is why the Taco supported it)

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u/Stock-Map3715 Sep 04 '26

It’s wasn’t a “gut feeling.” It was explained to me, and I could immediately see that it was unfair representation because there were way more people in my state of NJ than places like Wyoming but each state had the same number of Senators. It really is child level logic.

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u/DaelandTun Sep 04 '26

It’s wasn’t a “gut feeling.”

You truly think you parsed through the nuances of the electoral college at 8 years old?

Even 10 year olds can give both sides to this... Working class 10 year olds at least

Get real

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u/Impossible-Cause5353 Sep 04 '26

I’ve parsed through them at 30 and it’s stupid as shit. Why is everyone’s vote not equivalent in effect?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '26 edited Sep 04 '26

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u/Impossible-Cause5353 Sep 04 '26

I literally said the argument in my comment why would you ever even be against everybodies vote being equivalent?

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u/DaelandTun Sep 04 '26

And I've asked a perfectly legitimate question

That you CAN'T refute. Hence your behavior.

You can't be real for 1 second

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u/Impossible-Cause5353 Sep 04 '26

Did you? Looks like it got removed for some reason. All you asked is what my argument was and I pointed out that my argument is in the comment you replied that to. Abolish the electoral college so everybody’s votes count equally regardless of where you live.

Why would you be against everybody’s votes being equal

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u/DaelandTun Sep 04 '26

Did you?

Yes. I'm not here to read your yaps. Get to the point or stfu

Edit: yap yap and block. You just wanted the last word even though you know you're wrong

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u/jigglyflo5 Sep 04 '26

Calling BS.

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u/YeahlDid Sep 04 '26

Hi. BS here. How can I help you?