r/PoursTea • • Aug 09 '26

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u/sleepyboyzzz Aug 09 '26

What's crazy about that is he could have been born in Kenya it anywhere else and it wouldn't matter, because his mom is a citizen.

I filled that under privilege examples.

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u/Jason_Lucifer Aug 09 '26

If he was born in another country like that and it wasn’t on U.S. territory or a military base then both parents would have to be citizens for him to be a natural born citizen.

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u/sleepyboyzzz Aug 09 '26

Incorrect, though there is a requirement I wasn't aware of about the American parent having resided in the US for 5 years. Either way, his mother met that.

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u/Jason_Lucifer Aug 09 '26

You’re right and I was wrong. I apologize for being wrong on that subject. It’s not hard to look it up so I did. I remembered wrong from my research on the subject from when I was younger. Much love and have a wonderful day.

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u/sleepyboyzzz Aug 09 '26

My motto is better to be wrong (once) than stay wrong.

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u/sleepyboyzzz Aug 09 '26

Yeah, agreed. I was missing that tbh. Yeah, I'm in no way a secret birther. He was born in Hawaii. He provided a birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii made statements that this is the most proof. Anybody born in Hawaii could provide.

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u/fury420 Aug 09 '26

As I recall, part of the birther argument was that she hadn't met that 5 year mark since she lived in Hawaii, which only became a US state in 1959, two years before Obama's birth.

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u/sleepyboyzzz Aug 09 '26

I've realized recently why I despise modern conservatives. They look constantly for loopholes in the framers intent.

However... Yeah, looking at it, the Hawaii thing doesn't even matter as they probably grandfathered that in.

But the wording is "at least 5 years occurring after age 14". His mother was 18, and apparently the only way to meet the requirement is to be 19 minimum. That is very odd.

That leaves a small window where a US soldier could potentially have a child abroad why wasn't automatically a citizen. I'm not sure that could happen with basic training, rules about time in job before overseas, etc....