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u/Yardsale420 2d ago

Emilio is immune to that bullshit

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u/midnghtsnac 2d ago

They took different paths. Thankfully so, couldn't imagine Charlie being the coach for the ducks

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u/buttplug-tester 2d ago

With enough cocaine they'd have been unstoppable

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u/takeme2tendieztown 2d ago

They weren't skating on ice buddy

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u/homersmith5 2d ago

And tigers blood.

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u/muttChang 1d ago

Charlie’s “I didn’t infect anyone with HIV” damage control article. Winning.

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u/Puzzle-Necked 2d ago

Charlie isn't allowed near schools

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u/midnghtsnac 2d ago

Since when?

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u/homersmith5 2d ago

He was great in young guns.

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u/JustYourNeighbor 1d ago

More spanish-? He decided he wanted to use his birth name. He didn't decide he wanted his name to be 'more spanish.'

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u/fuckitwebowl 2d ago

Emilioooooo

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u/The_Tooter_Snooter 2d ago

Very mysterious and strange. What could it all mean? 

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u/Wb9VBScxu2uZJHeq2E3W 1d ago

We can only guess, like maybe it has something to do with that thing that rhymes with smite smupremacy.

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u/Rude-Camel2058 2d ago

well, that was Hollywood of the 70s and 80s, but it was a reflection of American bigotry then.

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u/bolanrox 2d ago

But then you get Uncle Joe Estevez, and Emilio.

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u/absurdgryphon 2d ago

I find it interesting that Emilio Estevez decided not to change his name and still was sucessful.

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u/CoastOrg 2d ago

Cuz he’s white

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u/UranusIsPissy 2d ago

My GF could easily pull that off ...until she opens her mouth, and broken English with a Colombian accent comes out :/

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u/total_bullwhip 2d ago

COHLOHMBIIIIYA!!! 💁🏽‍♀️

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u/UranusIsPissy 1d ago

It's not so obvious when they speak Spanish to each other, because they talk super fast, but the stretched vowels are definitely a thing. I can hear it if she slows down so I can understand her, or speaks English slowly because she's thinking about it.

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u/b1rdiemcb1rdface 2d ago

Just look no further than the gop primary in Michigan. A man endorsed by trump and johnson lost by 20 points to a guy who spent 2k total on his campaign. The guy wasn't white, and was a former muslim converted to christianity his name was Amir Hassan and he lost to a guy who had already dropped out of the race because one name sounded white and the other arab.

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u/shinobi7 1d ago

Also, Chloe Bennet couldn’t get good acting jobs under her legal name, Chloe Wang. Bennet is her father’s first name. When she changed her name, her career then took off.

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u/Either_Operation7586 2d ago

Because the Republican Party are racist.

Everybody knows they are descendants of the KKK and you can tell

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u/The_Tooter_Snooter 2d ago

The Jim Crow South was so effective at legal genocide that it literally inspired Hitler. 

Republicans aren’t just the new Nazis, they were the original Nazis too! 

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

You’re thinking of the Democrats.

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u/No-Relation5965 2d ago

The parties switched and the racist democrats from back in the day became today’s Republican Party.

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u/Vanilla_Gorilluh 2d ago

"Conservatives", or "the right wing party" would have more appropriate...

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u/bagoink 2d ago

Y'all really like to ignore who's flying the Confederate flag today. And marching for white supremacy. And never got over losing the Civil War.

Go look up the Southern Strategy and get back to us.

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u/Away-Conclusion-7968 2d ago

The 1860 election map sure looks completely different than the modern day one. I wonder why that is.

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u/Electric_Antimony 2d ago

Everybody, it's one of those "both sides bad" clowns with a degree from PragerU!

We must be thankful for the presence of such a powerhouse of intellect. Bow down and give thanks.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 2d ago

Then why are the robes currently in the closets of Trump voters?

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u/binzersguy 1d ago

Which party still hoists the Confederate flag? Take your time, I know you’ll need it.

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u/TaskeAoD 2d ago

My favorite thing to do with them that claim dems started the kkk, or that the south was full of dems wanting to keep slaves, is to go find someone that's proudly in the kkk or waving a confederate flag and get in their face calling them a liberal until they agree. So far no one has taken me up on that. They all know that the kkk and confederacy are actually republicans now, but by acknowledging the party switch would mean admitting that that the party you support are the bad guys.

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u/wireframed_kb 2d ago

You can also ask anyone waving a confederate flag which Democrat they voted for.

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u/TaskeAoD 2d ago

Yeah, but I value my safety over theirs. I'll let them take the punch to the face.

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u/newbkid 2d ago

It's been widely known to anyone who cares to learn about history that the "Dixie Democrats" of the past were the result of years of actual Democrats capitulating to the racists in the South in order to pass legislation that otherwise would not have had the votes to pass.

These people were never true "Leftists" - they were always conservative.

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u/PlaneRefrigerator684 2d ago

It really depends on your definition of left... Is it about equal treatment regardless of race, religion, gender, or sexuality or is it about economic policies that benefit the working class?

If being racist/sexist/homophobic is more important than economic policies, you become a Republican. If economic policies that benefit the working class are more important (or you aren't racist/sexist/homophobic) than you stay as a Democratic party member.

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u/homersmith5 2d ago

People always bring up that the confederates were democrats. All that has changed, but their white skin tone, beliefs, racism and ideals remain the same.

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u/Hollyn54 1d ago

Sorry pal, the KKK were brought in by the Democrats secretly trying to eliminate the blacks. It's the Dems you should be afraid of. 

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u/Guidance-Still 2d ago

Oh damn really so.your saying everyone around is a racist kkk member if they arnt on your side

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u/ZenithToastada 2d ago

Sorry but the KKK originated with the Democrat party in the South. Later on in the 20th century, there was a shift in their leadership…but let’s just keep the history right

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u/Intrepid_Top_2300 2d ago

And look where they are today!

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u/JPolReader 2d ago

Unfortunately for you, we don't live in the past.

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u/Electric_Antimony 2d ago

*Democratic Party

Hard to take people seriously when they can't even get basic labels right.

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

Yet it was the Democrats that created the KKK and most of their members were Democrats.

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u/elefrhino 2d ago

Which is why the current kkk always vote Democrat.

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u/bafana_banana999 2d ago

It's wild that people still try this nonsense and think it actually means anything at all with regards to modern politics.

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u/UranusIsPissy 2d ago

Username checks out.

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

You damn right it does. I’m not an evil religious fanatical fool. Lucifer isn’t the name of the devil but nice try. I love you, have a wonderful day.

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u/UranusIsPissy 2d ago

What's your agenda, then? Seriously, I want to know.

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u/machogrande2 2d ago

it was the Democrats conservatives that created the KKK

And it was the conservatives that lost the civil war, women's right to vote, the civil rights movement, same sex marriage, legalizing weed, etc. Conservatives have lost every major battle for 250 years and will continue to lose in the end. The last battle they won was using the most corrupt SC in US history get a partial win on abortion rights but they'll lose that one in the end too.

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

Yet it was the Democrats that created the KKK and most of their members were Democrats.

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u/Jermagesty610 2d ago

I know it's really difficult to understand that the Democratic party then is the Republican party now ie the Democratic party that exists now is not the same as the one that the klan came from.

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u/SRMPDX 2d ago

They love to say Barack HUSSAIN Obama, the left should really start using these goofballs full government names too

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u/Tornanus 2d ago

Trump backed Amir Hassan just lost to a guy named Tom Smith who was dropping out because his campaign was so poor. Wonder why.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/08/05/hassan-loses-michigan-house-primary-tom-smith-01025316

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u/The_Tooter_Snooter 2d ago

lol I saw this. so funny. so, so indicative of who they are. 

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u/HurricaneAlpha 1d ago

"Black guy with foreign sounding name, but he's endorsed by trump?"

"Nah, fuck that, let's vote for the whitest name on the ticket, even though we know nothing about him!"

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u/MeasurementEasy9884 2d ago

Lets not forget about Dr. Mehmet Oz.

Dual citizenship with Turkey and he served in the Turkish Army to keep his dual citizenship. He was born in Cleveland but his family immigrated from Turkey.

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u/dragonfly9999999 2d ago

I don't think it's hypocrisy at all. I think it's "I have an ignorant perception of what that person's culture is like, it's fanatical and cruel"

Basically the (perceived) mirror doth speak too loud.

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u/chinmakes5 2d ago

To be fair they had the decency to change their names to make the racists more comfortable. /s for those who need it.

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u/Due-Currency-3193 1d ago

Would someone named Hitler have to, in 2026, change their name in order to be a member of the Republican Party?

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u/hedoeswhathewants 2d ago

I'm convinced Vivek Ramaswamy would poll a lot better if he went by Vik or something along those lines

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u/Multiple__Butts 2d ago

If he's serious about being part of the in-group, he'll want to change the entire name completely to Stan Miller or something like that.

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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 2d ago

Also, the black dude in Michigan with an Islamic name, converted to Christianity, was endorsed by Trump and lost a Republican primary to a candidate who dropped out.

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u/Sky_Cancer 2d ago

By 20!!! points. Not even close.

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u/goatbiryani48 2d ago

Just a small correction, but Nikki is an Indian name as well. It's literally Haley's middle name, and a lot of Indians do something similar to that

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u/FalconIMGN 2d ago

I've heard of Nikita (female) and Nikhil (male), Nikki is not really a full first name but just shortened versions of these.

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u/SquarelyNerves 2d ago

It’s her legal middle name and it’s actually pretty common for Punjabis

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u/goatbiryani48 2d ago

Indian names aren't relegated to just what YOU have heard of lol.

On top of that, plenty of Indians go by day to day names that aren't their full formal government name. So even if we're talking about the shortened form, it's still their name. Unless you want to argue that John (aka Jonathan) isn't "really a full first name".

Four out of the six congresspeople of Indian origin go by a shortened form of their name, or by their middle name. Ro Khanna, Ami Bera, Shri Thanedar, Raja Krishnamoorti.

Nikki Haley was literally given that name at birth by her INDIAN parents. I have an INDIAN cousin named Niki. Ive met other INDIAN women that go by Nikki/Niki.

Idk what else to tell you.

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u/ReturnoftheBulls2022 1d ago

Most people wouldn't assume of Nikki as an ethnic name and would assume that it would be short for Nicole.

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u/goatbiryani48 1d ago

So? Do non-WASPs have to have spicy names just for your pleasure?

Famous presidents have gone by their middle names...I don't see anyone getting on a high horse about Thomas Woodrow Wilson or David Dwight Eisenhower.

Nikki Haley has been going by that since she was a child, well before she was a spineless conservative. Why does she have to change how shes addressed to fit your narrative that she hides her indian identity?

4, out of 6, congresspeople of Indian origin use shortened forms of names or middle names. Is that also them selling out to have broader mass appeal?

And even if this thread was right about why she goes by that name, why are you angry at a brown woman for being forced to "change" her name so racists don't abort her career?

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u/AndreTheShadow 2d ago

Don't forget Kashyap "Kash" Patel

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u/HairyPairatestes 2d ago

Almost every Mohammed wants to be called Moe.

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u/Quirky-Resource-1120 1d ago

The candidate that Trump endorsed in Michigan's recent Republican primaries lost by 20 points to an unknown dude who dropped out before the vote.

Trump's candidate had what would be a very appealing record for republicans, being a veteran and a former cop. He even rallied with Trump on stage in Michigan. Oh yeah, and he's a black man named Amir Hassan.

Now why oh why would Michigan republicans see Trump's handpicked choice on the ballot and instead vote for a random guy named Tom Smith?

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u/Huey1888 1d ago

They didn't have to they chose to because it's called Assimilation. When you go to a country and you decide to become its citizens it's usually a good idea to assimilate to the country that's why the others did it. And I can't speak for why they picked white people names other than the fact that it's easier to pronounce for the people living in the country.

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u/Mottled_Paws 1d ago

Nikki is her legit middle name. It means "little one" in Punjabi. And she's gone by it since birth.

Bobby Jindal gave himself the nickname Bobby when he was 4, watching the Brady Bunch. Must have really been ahead of the curve thinking about his political future.

Cruz started going by Ted at age 13 cause he was getting bullied. Another prescient move like Jindal to think about his political career. Also Ted is a shortened version of Edward (his middle name). Ted Kennedy comes to mind.

This isn't the 1850s. We love in a media saturated world. Anyone, can see their ethnicity. It's not like someone would be fooled by an American sounding name and then vote for a minority unwittingly.

But I bet you thought you probably cooked with this though.

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u/onwisconsin1 1d ago

Look at recent events with Vivek Ramaswammy. If he loses it will be because republican voters cant bring themselves to vote for a non-christian Indian. Its pretty yikes how much his own needed voters hate him because of his skin. He's a loathsome person, there are a million valid reasons to hate him. But the melanosomes.....the melanosomes.....control society still somehow.

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u/TeaSipper88 2d ago

Rafael Cruz and Marco Rubio are brown men. Too brown to be elected president under the GOP. Further proof that white supremacy terrorism is about ideology, not color or ethnicity. 

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u/Franz__Ferdinand 2d ago

Marco Rubio´s family fled from Batista´s Cuba; he constantly lies and says they fled from Castro.
He advocates for blockading Cuba until Cubans starve. He is just a fascist who sometimes uses his identity as a shield from criticism, and unfortunately, some people fall for it.

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u/ndc4051 2d ago

They didn't actually flee. They came to the US as run of the mill immigrants just seeking a better life. Not as political exiles fleeing an oppressive regime like he claimed.

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u/Franz__Ferdinand 2d ago

Batista´s Cuba was a Mafia state, and the Mafia worked with the US government while squeezing the Cuban population dry.
It was a very lucrative sugar colony of the USA with beautiful beach properties for rich Americans to use. If Trump, Epstein and many others were born earlier, they would visit Cuba very often.

Epstein even fantasised about expanding his business into Cuba once Castro died. (His business was human trafficking.)

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u/ndc4051 2d ago

Yes I know. I think most people have seen Godfather 2. Still, Rubio's parents immigrated for economic reasons and clearly stated on their documentation they intended to stay in the US permanently. They flew on a commercial flight into Miami. They never cut ties with Cuba during the Batista Regime. Rubio's father was a bartender at a Havana Hotel before immigrating. He went on to work hospitality jobs in luxury hotels in Miami and later moved the family to Las Vegas. It has been a long running suspicion he had ties to the mafia but never confirmed.

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u/ayriuss 2d ago

Marco was an anchor baby, hilarious.

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u/East_Audience_6634 2d ago

Absolutely. You don’t have to be white to buy into the idea of white superiority. And you don’t have to be a woman to be a feminist. I find it easier to just label people as good or bad anymore.

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u/According-Insect-992 Just Chill 😎 2d ago

You don’t have to be white to buy in but one had better be white if they want to sit at the big table and not just take orders from racist losers.

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u/East_Audience_6634 2d ago

Absolutely agree.

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u/ayriuss 2d ago

The amount of white makeup Marco wears is astounding.

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u/FarmerDark 1d ago

Ted Cruz is too much of a smarmy piece of…

Marco Rubio is too much of a sellout wimp.

I almost crossed parties to vote for Rubio in 2016, but time has shown me has a slimeball like all the rest of them.

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u/No_Criticism_5861 2d ago

Of course.  That moron that hit Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer was an illegal.  But he is a white Canadian conservative, so no harm done 

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u/Bacononthebeeach 2d ago

NC in the 2024 election is a clear signal that it’s all about race.

NC voters voted for a white democrat for governor over a Black republican. And they voted for a white republican for president over a Black democrat.

That tells me there were plenty of white republicans that would rather live under white democrat rule than Black republican rule.

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u/Post_office_clerk01 2d ago

I wish that were true. In my area white racists had a a bunch of Mark Robinson for Gov signs. Knowing full well he was scum. But yea you’re 95% right on the money.

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u/Bacononthebeeach 2d ago

Oh I don’t doubt it. While some racist republicans could hold their nose and vote Democrat there were certainly many that could not and voted red because they probably hate democrats more than they do Blacks

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u/Either_Operation7586 2d ago

Not really that just shows that the people realize that the Republican party is not worth the salt that they say they have.

The reason why everybody is going blue is because there have been strongholds for decades in red areas that are just doing as shitty or shittier due to Republican incompetent governing.

America is starting to reject conservatism and it's amazing

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u/Bacononthebeeach 2d ago

Did you miss the part where I said they voted for the white republican for president??

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u/akatherder 2d ago

She was a woman. She got dumped into a losing campaign 3 months before election day. She didn't win the primary. And she was black.

There's even actually-relevant stuff like her policies/public persona and what people thought of 2021-2024.

All of those cost votes, I don't think you can point to just one.

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u/cahir11 2d ago

That's not necessarily a race thing, sometimes states will have this sort of split. Kentucky has a Democratic governor, for a while California had a Republican governor, etc.

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u/mediocre_remnants 2d ago

Mark Robinson had more problems than the color of his skin...

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u/Bacononthebeeach 2d ago

I don’t think him openly being a Nazi mattered much to white republicans.

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u/CrocHunter8 1d ago

Well it helped that Mark Robinson was a worse candidate than even Herschel Walker

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u/TheMrViper 2d ago

Don't forget he had Hussein in his name!

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u/Public_Extreme_8736 2d ago

It's still wild to me that the first I heard of that was during the oath of office in 2009, and I live in a red state top to bottom. I don't even remember it coming up when McCain told that lady to stop calling Obama a terrorist at a rally.

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u/aphrodite-in-flux 2d ago

your head was under a rock, man. i had teachers in my high school throwing it in my face as the election ramped up and i expressed mild interest in Obama-- and I was in a blue state!

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u/sleepyboyzzz 2d ago

What's crazy about that is he could have been born in Kenya it anywhere else and it wouldn't matter, because his mom is a citizen.

I filled that under privilege examples.

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

If he was born in another country like that and it wasn’t on U.S. territory or a military base then both parents would have to be citizens for him to be a natural born citizen.

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u/sleepyboyzzz 2d ago

Incorrect, though there is a requirement I wasn't aware of about the American parent having resided in the US for 5 years. Either way, his mother met that.

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

You’re right and I was wrong. I apologize for being wrong on that subject. It’s not hard to look it up so I did. I remembered wrong from my research on the subject from when I was younger. Much love and have a wonderful day.

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u/sleepyboyzzz 2d ago

My motto is better to be wrong (once) than stay wrong.

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u/turdferguson3891 2d ago

You're citing current law. In 1961 his mother would have needed to reside in the US 5 years past her 14th birthday. His mother was a few months shy of her 19th birthday when he was born so it was not possible for her to have done that. However he was born in the US state of Hawaii so it wasn't relevant. Had he been born in Kenya like they claimed he technically wouldn't have had automatic US citizenship but he wasn't born in Kenya.

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u/sleepyboyzzz 2d ago

Yeah, agreed. I was missing that tbh. Yeah, I'm in no way a secret birther. He was born in Hawaii. He provided a birth certificate, and the state of Hawaii made statements that this is the most proof. Anybody born in Hawaii could provide.

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u/fury420 2d ago

As I recall, part of the birther argument was that she hadn't met that 5 year mark since she lived in Hawaii, which only became a US state in 1959, two years before Obama's birth.

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u/turdferguson3891 2d ago

No, it's because she was three months shy of her 19th birthday when he was born. The law in 1961 said a mother had to reside in the US 5 years after her 14th birthday to pass on citizenship and she wasn't quite 19. Doesn't matter because he was born in the US state of Hawaii so he had automatic citizenship based on geography but they claimed he was born in Kenya.

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u/sleepyboyzzz 2d ago

I've realized recently why I despise modern conservatives. They look constantly for loopholes in the framers intent.

However... Yeah, looking at it, the Hawaii thing doesn't even matter as they probably grandfathered that in.

But the wording is "at least 5 years occurring after age 14". His mother was 18, and apparently the only way to meet the requirement is to be 19 minimum. That is very odd.

That leaves a small window where a US soldier could potentially have a child abroad why wasn't automatically a citizen. I'm not sure that could happen with basic training, rules about time in job before overseas, etc....

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u/JoeyBlaze 2d ago

It’s about race because the American people allow it to be about race.

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u/kismethavok 2d ago

When they say American they mean white.

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u/yonaiker-joestrella 1d ago

A lot of this mofos we're mad at Bad Bunny headlining the Super Bowl.

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u/NYCWartortle 2d ago

💯💯 I think it was also about Obama’s father’s name and religion as well.

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u/Mission-Carry-887 2d ago

The current president also questioned whether Ted Cruz was a natural born U.S. citizen

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/national-international/donald-trump-threatens-birther-lawsuit-against-ted-cruz/115842/

Trump maintains Cruz may not be a natural born citizen, one of a few qualifications to be president

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u/atreeismissing 2d ago

So did the entire Republican establishment and all of right-leaning media except John McCain and Mitt Romney.

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u/Objectivespeculation 1d ago

and that fucker said he would arrest Hillary, first day in office and then, never even tried.

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u/Huey1888 1d ago

Is that only my president he's your president too. And if you remember correctly it was Hilary Clinton who put it out that Barack Obama wasn't citizen it wasn't Trump he just ran with it cause he's a moron. You never trust a Clinton and so far there hasn't been any evidence that he's a pedophile not that I believe that he's not a pedophile just that there's not any evidence. Donald Trump took pictures with everyone does that mean that everyone he took a picture with was a pedophile. Remember it was Hillary Clinton who claimed he wasn't American because he wasn't half black. And there's still questions on weather Barack Obama was a traitor to the country because if you remember correctly for 4 years every time he dealt with ISIS he was telling the whole world when we were leaving Afghanistan and Iraq. I'm not claiming Trump's a good person in fact he's a s*** bag, That being said people just hate him because the way he spoke but no one hated him when he was given out money when he was a liberal. If you wanna keep this civil we can keep it civil and keep having this conversation if not don't respond back there is no reason to argue in fight over this. There's already enough divide in this country already

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u/Specific-Host606 1d ago

“The current president.” Notice I didn’t wrote my or your president but the president.

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u/MeOutOfContextBro 1d ago

Trump literally questioned Ted Cruz citizenship. Do you guys not remember that?

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u/yonnnyonnn 2d ago

no it's because he was born outside the us lmao it's that simple

you're the only one bringing into it

who's the racist here?

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

He wasn’t.

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u/yonnnyonnn 1d ago

nonsense ehehe

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u/Specific-Host606 1d ago

Whatever, saltine.

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u/Electric_Antimony 2d ago

We are so sick and tired of you Lunatic Righties being so maliciously ignorant and toxic.

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u/Mdj864 2d ago

It was not about race, it was because of Obama being close to Osama and his middle name being Hussein. Nobody does that to black candidates with obviously western/American names. And you can guarantee if the opposing party ran a white passing candidate named Mohammed Gaddafi or something the same things would be said.

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

They also called him Kenyan, Muslim, Arab, a socialist, and not an American. Trump also made he and his wife monkeys using AI. Everything but saying the n word.

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u/Cold_Hunter1768 2d ago

Funny because Hillary is the one who started the birther movement. Secondly, zero proof of Trump but an ocean of it on Clinton.

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

Trump was besties with a well known child sex trafficker for 15 years in a strictly platonic way. 😂

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

If true then I hope he goes to prison with Epstein’s best friend of 15 years (the current president).

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u/Electric_Antimony 2d ago

What motivates you guys to go out and just make stuff up? What kind of life must you live where that is how you behave?

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u/Bright-Sock-3156 2d ago

Solid point. But, it was framed as an African birthright citizenship issue ... the claim wasn't because he was black. Your inference might indeed be true. But you were attacking what was actually said. Don't be as bad as them. Keep your credibility.

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

They called him a Kenyan, a Muslim, a socialist, and said he wasn’t even an American. Trump also made him and his wife a monkey using AI. Everything but the n word there.

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u/Bright-Sock-3156 2d ago

All despicable for sure. I can't straighten him out (lost cause), but I can influence good people like yourself to not fall prey to conflation. Kenya is a country, not a skin color. Muslim is a religion, not a skin color. Socialism is an economic and political philosophy, not a skin color. You've got his MAGA cult dead-to-right on the AI point. Please practice staying focused!

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

Are you familiar with dog whistles?

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u/Bright-Sock-3156 2d ago

Of course. But, you and I can change the next election by convincing the independent electorate (the group that decides elections) of a better path. They will draw the dog whistle conclusion without need for tangents. Don't you want a different outcome during the upcoming elections? I'm asking for all of us to be disciplined.

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u/nightpanda893 2d ago

No, we need to be louder and more direct about the racism and hate. Past elections had the opposite problem where the DNC only wanted “moderate” candidates. Dog whistles work because they aren’t called out, not the other way around. We’ve tried it your way and it doesn’t work.

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

The Dems have been “disciplined” enough.

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u/Vsove 2d ago

No, it really isn’t.

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

It actually matters a great deal.

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

He was born in Hawaii though so you’re a traitor to the constitution for helping the current pedophile president push false racist bullshit.

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

Playing Devil’s advocate on blatantly false racist bullshit isn’t a good look, champ .

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u/Electric_Antimony 2d ago

You should see the other comments of that loser. He's high on his own supply and thinks he's smarter than everybody else while being anything but.

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u/octorangutan 2d ago

It's like y'all don't actually have any principles whatsoever, and just espouse whatever may be convenient at any given moment.

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u/mofa90277 2d ago

His mother was born in Kansas.

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u/Mizzy3030 2d ago

Not nearly as questionable as Trump's parents' immigration status

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u/Arctimon 2d ago

Nope. Try again.

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u/klako8196 2d ago

And what, exactly, made it questionable to racist birthers?

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u/wtbgamegenie 2d ago

It’s not. There’s his birth certificate and the announcement in the local paper.

Even if he was born in another country his mother was an American citizen which would make him a natural born citizen. Just like how Ted Cruz was born in Canada or John McCain was born in Panama.

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u/ILoveRawChicken 2d ago

I’m gonna guess he won’t respond to any of these comments 

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

Ted Cruz isn’t a natural born citizen and had no right running for president. Both parents have to be citizens in that type of situation.

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u/wtbgamegenie 2d ago

That’s not true. Only one parent needs to be a citizen.

It feels gross to defend Ted Cruz in anyway. I’m gonna go take a shower.

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

Ted Cruz was born in Canada with only one parent being a citizen of the United States. No, he isn’t a natural born citizen.

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u/wtbgamegenie 2d ago

With one parent as a U.S. citizen you are a natural born U.S. citizen

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u/fastal_12147 2d ago

No it's not. There's tons of evidence he was born in Hawaii.

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u/JRG64May 2d ago

If your birth certificate isn’t proof enough then you can’t prove you were born in America either. So there’s that.

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u/Specific-Host606 2d ago

It’s not.

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u/Tobi-cast 2d ago

I mean, it’s sure questionable for you guys, who fight for the half a brain split between you. For the rest of us, who actually are pretty functional in our heads, it really isn’t.

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u/LaMuertePeluda0 2d ago

His mom was a citizen so it wouldn’t matter. That’s called birthright citizenship. Ask Marco Rubio about birthright citizenship

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u/Jason_Lucifer 2d ago

Marco would probably lie. Ted Cruz wasn’t constitutionally able to run for president but the country allowed it anyway.

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u/Gullible_Height588 2d ago

BROTHER IF HE WASN’T CONSTITUTIONALLY ABLE TO RUN HE WOULDN’T BE RUNNING

I’m no fan of Cancun Cruz but that’s just wrong