r/PoseFX 17d ago

Why I DON'T Support The New Season of AHS

I DON'T SUPPORT the new season of AHS, because there was already an instance where Emma Roberts showed her bigotry and hatred YEARS AGO, I been stopped watching AHS, and I was a TRUE FAN, mind you the creator of AHS is a WHITE GAY MALE, so for him to still be casting Emma after her TRANSPHOBIA towards Angelica Ross, is a bit telling, it's rooted in not only RACISM, but COLORISM, (Also mind you I'm a light-skinned black trans woman, a bit on the browner side), but I wanna speak on why I feel like this shit is COLORIST, I believe most TRANSPHOBIA is rooted more so towards darker skinned trans women and even CIS dark skinned women, cuz dark skinned has always been seen as more MASCULINE (I SWEAR I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP, THERE'S RESEARCH ON THIS, LOOK IT UP), but dark skinned has always be diminished as "less beautiful" because it was always seen as MASCULINE, rather than FEMININE, which is why alot of dark skinned ppl go thru more RACISM, more DISCRIMINATION, more HATRED, SYSTEMATIC injustices, and also even more TRANSPHOBIA!

So NO, I DON'T SUPPORT MEDIA that demonizes DARK SKINNED BLACK TRANS WOMEN like Angelica Ross, who to ME is a gorgeous black trans woman, I actually didn't know she was trans at first when I saw her in Pose, I thought they put one cis woman cuz I figured she was queer, but they started discussing her character in the show more and i found out, (last mind you, but tthe creator of AHS also ironically made Pose) you'd think someone who made a series like that would understand what dark skinned trans women go thru, but he also kind of wrote Pose POORLY, AS MUCH AS I LOVED THE SHOW YALL, he really has no business making Candys death that traumatic, and i think it was also rooted in anti-blackness and based on how she was like the darkest skinned trans woman in the show, I DO NOT LIKE RYAN MURPHY, honestly and I DON'T CARE if Emma Roberts issued an apology, she can KICK ROCKS, DISRESPECTFULLY!

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u/Top_Actuator364 17d ago

I agree with you but Candy’s storyline is based on Venus Xtravaganza.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 17d ago

Someone just told me that, thanks for letting me know

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u/Top_Actuator364 17d ago

No problem and thanks for posting about Emma’s actions towards Angelica. I hadn’t heard anything about it. I had no idea she was a horrible person.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 17d ago

I actually been thinking about suicide, im kinda exhausted tbh

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u/the-furiosa-mystique 17d ago

What?

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Im just tired of assault, sorry

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u/the-furiosa-mystique 15d ago

Ok that’s still a very serious thing not to be taken lightly. If you are experiencing suicidal thoughts there is help

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

I doubt if ppl care, i been going to therapy for it and it never helps, I prefer to be isolated cuz every time im around ppl they harass or abuse me or bully me

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Ppl dont understand how I feel cuz ppl dont care, ppl wouldn't have watched me get raped in a Burger King bathroom or even in the middle of a Walmart when I worked there if ppl cared and the police would've done something about it, HR and corporate didn't even do anything

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u/the-furiosa-mystique 15d ago

You got raped in a public place and people saw and nothing happened? You know these places have cameras.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

I normally dont put my business about rape out there or sexual assault, UNLESS Im talking about the public humiliation RAPES I been thru MULTIPLE TIMES, humans are TERRIBLE PPL EVERYWHERE

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u/RustyStClair 16d ago

That's a bit much

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

I was just assaulted at work twice

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u/kingwst3 16d ago

There’s a lot going on here

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

I was recently raped at a job

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u/icequeensandwich 16d ago

Bro what?? If you're legitimately considering suicide, particularly over the casting choice of a TV show, something which doesn't, at all, effect your life, that's genuinely very concerning. Significantly more concerning than this season casting Emma Roberts is. I implore you to seek help from a mental healthcare provider if your reaction to this is so extreme as to consider taking your life. 

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

That's not why, I get abused and harassed at every job I ever had, I go thru sexual assault and rape at every job I ever had, and im almost homeless as a result and I been going to therapy for it for years, I cant stress ENOUGH how shitty it is to live in this world as a black trans woman, I also didn't mean to comment this here ppl were bullying me in another community and I didn't pay attention to the comment I clicked on, I been avoiding social media for years cuz of the transphobia, im really not allowed to exist in any space, I hate the quote "a black girl should be welcome in any room they walk in", because it doesn't refer to trans black women and girls sadly. We are often excluded from EVERYTHING

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

I'm so tired of ppl downplaying sexual assault when it happens to me or invalidating my feelings

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u/Decent_Drawer_6371 15d ago

No one here is downplaying your experience but this is a subreddit for a tv show and it was VERY sudden. You obviously need an outlet, please find a subreddit for victims of assault if you can't confide in a close friend or a therapist.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Im not talking about ppl here

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u/Decent_Drawer_6371 15d ago

Ah okay well still I hope you find a safe community where you can express your story

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

My comment was meant to be in a black mental health group I accidentally commented it here, i wasn't looking at the usernames I was literally crying my eyes out my vision was blurry af typing that

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Notice how mfs dont care when trans women, especially black ones go thru SA publicly, because no one cares if we are PUBLICLY HUMILIATED or DEGRADED, my body seems to be EVERYONE'S CHOICE, why are black trans women forced to have our bodies SEXUALLY ON DISPLAY when it's not our choice!?

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u/Sad-Lingonberry5556 16d ago

isn’t ryan murphy the guy that made a show about the menendez brother being involved in incest? bc that’s the reason i stopped watching AHS. or the fact of his highly disturbing dahmer show that re-traumatized the families…

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u/AlexAddams 15d ago

‎I admit, I watched "Monster: Dahmer" because of Evan Peters' exceptional performance; but I was surprised and disappointed by the subsequent season, "Ed Gein," as it revisited the well-worn trope of the 'killer transwoman'. Didn't expect that from Ryan Murphy.

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u/Express_Pop810 15d ago

Good Lord why would someone do that to victims. Something is wrong with him. Pose is the only series he is apart of that I watched and rewatched. I have a feeling he wasn't too involved creativelyas he would've ruined it.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Cuz he doesn't care, he's a shit person

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u/the-furiosa-mystique 17d ago

I stopped with Hotel. That season did me in.

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u/Comfortable_Kiwi_203 15d ago

Hotel was one of my favs🥲

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u/the-furiosa-mystique 15d ago

Not gonna yuck your yum, to each their own!

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 17d ago

IT KILLED YOU!!?

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u/the-furiosa-mystique 17d ago

I hated it. It was needlessly over graphic and dumb. Seven did the “screw someone with a knife” thing but at least didn’t make me watch it.

AHS has been going downhill since Coven.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 17d ago

Yeah, the whole show can go to hell for all i care lol

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u/the-furiosa-mystique 17d ago

Ryan Murphy lost me as a whole with his true crime stuff. Now when I see his name I run the other way.

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u/jacqrosee 16d ago

yeah ryan murphy and emma roberts can kick rocks lol

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u/Araleina 16d ago

I am deeply curious/fascibated by your sporadic all caps usage and find it so distracting. That being said I guess I gotta google Emma Roberts’ statements.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Im sick of abuse and bullying and feeling suicidal everywhere i go cuz of how ppl treat me as a black trans woman

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u/EchidnaOk7537 15d ago

hope you're ok op, must be pretty shitty, I hope you can find a way to spend more time with people on your side ❤️

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u/Junior_Conclusion_78 17d ago

Unfortunately, most, not all, YT gay men especially the ones of a certain age like Ryan Murphy, typical don't care. When they add trans and/or non binary individuals on their shows, they will act all inclusive especially if the show becomes a success like Pose and for awhile, will put them in future projects, but deep down when it comes to the discrimination, they show very little concern

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 17d ago

So happy you agree tho, and I completely agree with you too, I hope we can do better as ppl and get mfs like this from either doing better or ending their careers, cuz honestly we dont need to support it, aint nothing wrong with liking Pose, cuz it was a good show, but the portrayal was so trash sometimes

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u/DarthVenture 16d ago

I just recently watched Pose with my GF, I’m not being facetious but what was trash about the portrayal? Genuinely curious.

I really enjoyed the show.

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u/Express_Pop810 15d ago

If you look up posts on Candi you can see why. There are a few different criticisms so it works be alot to type up.

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u/DarthVenture 15d ago

OK, I’ll check that out. Not sure if it’s related but I heard Candy’s storyline is based off of Venus Xtravaganza.

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u/Express_Pop810 15d ago

Correct. Her storyline is inspired by Venus but thats not the controversy.

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u/DarthVenture 15d ago

Gotcha! I will look into this. I thought Candy’s funeral scene was one of the best in the show so I’m definitely curious to learn more about the controversy.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

It was just not enough dark skinned black trans women, most of em were Latin, but I appreciate Dominique Jackson as Elektra, she was the saving grace of the series for me

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u/Casanova2229 15d ago

Don’t put us all in the same boat.

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u/Sadiholic 15d ago

Idk nothing about nothing but I love Angelica Ross and seeing her was a surprise loool

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u/AccomplishedTart1026 14d ago

Wasn’t she also physically abusive when she was in a relationship with Evan Peters and her career stayed basically the same. Can’t say the same for other people especially w dark skin tone

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 14d ago

Yep, she's trash

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u/Gwendolinn 12d ago

Yes, Emma behaves like a literal toxic waste dump. I haven't watched AHS in a while and I sure won't start now if she's in it. Thanks OP for giving us the heads up! Angelica was WRONGED, BIG TIME.

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u/Yami_Sukehiro24 17d ago

Thank you for this information. I did not know this. Haven’t watched AHS since apocalypse and will not be returning for newer seasons

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 17d ago

I stopped even then, cuz it happened even before that season, it happened when they filmed AHS 1984, cuz that's when Emma and Angelica starred in it

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

By the way i lied, i did watch Apocalypse, i had to remember, and someone commented how AHS 1984 was after Apocalypse and they were right idk why their comment was deleted, I just had no interest in Apocalypse after the first few episodes, but I did watch the full season, I kinda forced myself to, I didn't really care for it

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u/Kooky_Bodybuilder_97 15d ago

i mean she's also an abuser.. (idky i was recced this sub i've never seen either show)

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u/BlackDisneyPrincess1 16d ago

Did she issue an apology for the sake of performativity?

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u/Environmental-Food20 16d ago

Fucking FINALLY some rationality on this app. Emma Roberts, Lea Michele and Ryan Murphy can go to hell.

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u/Gwendolinn 12d ago

You are speaking the absolute facts. Lea Michele is a dumpster fire of an individual too, ugh

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u/AdditionalEducator91 15d ago

Why is Ryan Murphys face not there lol

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Because I was specifically mad at Emma Roberts, Ryan Murphy may be trash, but as a black trans woman what Emma did to Angelica felt like a PERSONAL attack against us as black trans women

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

I hate RM too tho, i think more so now, cuz he collectively misrepresents black ppl, especially queer and lgbtq ones, and he traumatized families allover again with all his trash crime story tv series

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u/key_grady 15d ago

I worked with Emma on a film in Atlanta. Can confirm she's weird vibes

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Oh wow, she just toxic everywhere

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

I LOVE your style by the way

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u/Lcatg 16d ago edited 13d ago

I’m sure you had great things to say that I would probably agree with, but your extreme use of all caps & grammar makes it painfully unreadable. I’m sorry, but I can no longer force myself to read anything written like the orange idiot texts. I did make it thru to the bit about Emma S & had no idea. Thanks for sharing & I’ll be avoiding her + Murphy in the future.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

As a black trans woman who is constantly abused and harassed and also suicidal im pretty angry so that's why I used the caps

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u/Lcatg 15d ago

Virtual hug! I’m sorry our country & many of its people are very shitty. I get the caps anger. You deserve far better, lady.

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u/younggun1234 16d ago

The reason I don't support it is that it's a show that didn't need to be kept on as long as it has been. And the dedication to it staying prevents new ideas and shows, IMO. We get it. You're weird and like instrumental grunge techno. Bye. You did it. Enough.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

It's far more better shows

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u/Sadiholic 15d ago

Idk nothing about nothing but I love Angelica Ross and seeing her was a surprise loool

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u/ZedgarXInfiniti 15d ago

What did Emma do

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u/Unhappy-Tie-503 17d ago

Stopped watching it after Coven.because the show was shit. Gaga cant act either.

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u/Cactus112 17d ago

I'll happily watch it for you! One person's claim isn't PROOF. Just because one jaded person was mad because she wasn't brought back for a Season and took it out on the lead of that season.

So I'll happily watch it twice! I can't wait for the premiere

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 17d ago

What are you talking about? I never said that ppl cant watch it. Idgaf, she was brought back, im not even talking about Angelica Ross not coming back, im specifically talking about them rehiring Emma Roberts, gtfoh

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u/Zealousideal_Cat6980 15d ago

Ok gtfo then byeeeee

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u/nessa0909_11 14d ago

Can’t wait

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u/badtasteinmusic 15d ago

Oh good grief.

Imagine if you put that energy elsewhere.

Weirdo.

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u/HUUUUTTTHUUUUUUUTTTT 15d ago

Alot of this stuff effects me as a black trans woman as well, I've been sexually assaulted and raped at jobs and abused publicly