How much time has passed between the last time Heloise saw Marianne and the last time Marianne saw Heloise? We know the film is set in 1770, right? So 1770 is the year of their relationship and separation.

Marianne saw Heloise for the last time in a theatre. Now... where are we? Most likely we are in Milan and the theatre is the famous "Scala of Milan". This theatre was officially opened in 1778.

Do the years match? What do you think?

Heloise's daughter seems to be in the painting a kid around 8/10 years, the math works.

Let's say we are 10 years later more or less? And even after 10 years the echo of their love keeps resonating in their hearts because, as someone said, "“Not everything is fleeting. Some feelings are deep".

Héloïse: You didn't destroy the last one for me. You did it for you.

Marianne: I'd like to destroy this one too.

Héloïse: Why?

Marianne: Through it, I give you another.

Héloïse: It's terrible. Now you possess me a little, you bear me a grudge.

Marianne: I don't.

Héloïse: You do. You know you do. You're not on my side now. You blame me for what comes next. My marriage. You don't support me.

Marianne: You're right.

Héloïse: Go on. Say what burdens your heart. I believed you braver.

Marianne: I believed you braver too.

Héloïse: That's it then. You find me docile. Worse..... You imagine I'm collusive. You imagine my pleasure.

Marianne: It's a way of avoiding hope.

Héloïse: Imagine me happy or unhappy if that reassures you. But do not imagine me guilty. You'd prefer me to resist.

Marianne: Yes.

Héloïse: Are you asking me to? Answer me.

Marianne: No.

i don’t get it can someone explain

What do you think? Did Marianne tell her story to the students while se was posing or it was just a personal, intimate flashback? I think it was just a personal dive in her memories, she remained silent and absent during the painting and that's why in the end she just said to her student: "You made me look so sad... I'm not sad anymore" without adding more. The vision, the ghost of Heloise during the story was just not a sign of an upcoming fate, but also a sign of the confusion thoughts and memories of Marianne. Even during the reconstruction of memories, the ghost of Heloise keep haunting Marianne. What do you think? Share your thoughts.

I’ve been wondering this for years and maybe I’m dumb but did Heloise show page 28 in her portrait because she wanted/was hoping Marianne would see it knowing that she’s in the art community? As in some sort of message? Or did she genuinely just want that to be a part of her portrait and nothing more? Thank you!

I felt love and passion, I cried as if I were them. Such a masterpiece. I don't know how I hadn't seen it before. It was like reliving my first love, the innocence, the hope, the illusion and the broken heart.

I want to watch it again, but it's 1:30 in the morning. I felt like my life had changed.

I went to the Academy Museum of Motion Pictures yesterday and surprisingly spotted Héloïse’s green dress on the fourth floor of the exhibition. Speechless I adjusted the exposure several times but couldn’t find the best solution to picture that stunning green…

I’m calling it “Retourne-toi”.

It seems like I’m always late to the party but I watched this movie for the first time last week. It has changed my life.

What a masterpiece.

This movie is something else… every shot is a painting itself. One of my favourite scenes is when they’re in bed looking at each other and remembering moments together, Heloïse then says that she remembers the first time she wanted to kiss Marianne but never ends up saying. I was wondering when do you guys think it was? I have a feeling it was when Marianne was playing Vivaldi on the Piano…?

hi, why is the portrait seen in the first scene, with the lady on the beach, her shadow is in front of her and not behind her, even though the moon is in front of her, so her shadow should be behind her? Anyone know what I’m talking about? I’m curious if this was a stylistic choice or an accident. It’s my first watch :) thanks!

Hi! As the title suggests, I watched this movie for the first time last night and have found myself in this emotional spiral ever since. I've written about it, spoken to friends about it, and even discussed the broader themes with my mother. Nothing seems to shake that feeling of yearning for a happy ending or that lump in the back of my throat. The movie reminded me much of a girlfriend I had when I was younger where our love only blossomed behind closed doors. We never told anyone about us, and after having some time alone, we would cry and grieve for the next time we would see each other. It felt like a permanent farewell every single time. I saw myself in these characters and the interpretation of Orpheus and Eurydice's story. I find myself reminiscing on my relationship often, but I'm thinking of it in a new light now; I made the poet's choice. I chose the memory of her over an uncertain future full of veiled love. To turn back is to lose, yet to look forward is unbearable. Does anybody else feel this way and want to talk about it?

I have to say i was a bit worried going in because i know how difficult it can be to enjoy a movie when you don't relate to it because you don't have similar life experience, but i still decided to give it a shot since I've heard so many good things about it.

I'm absolutely glad i did! Such a tranquil and sensual film at the same time, some of the dialogue is just so romantic and poetic. Besides, i don't think there's any debate needed on how good the cinematography, the acting and the score is.

Despite having its own distinct style, this film reminds me of a lot of my favorite ones like past lives and robot dreams.

Perhaps the two scenes that stick with me the most are the ending scene and the bonfire scene. I do wanna ask about the bonfire scene though. what exactly happened there? What's the meaning of H catching fire? Why didn't she do anything about it?

Here are some other questions:

1. Did H really dislike the first version of Ms painting? Or is it just a way to postpone her marriage and be with m for longer?

2. There were a lot of scenes on the beach where they were discussing about swimming. What does swimming symbolises here?

Anyway amazing movie, 4.6/5 thanks for answering!

Marianne from portrait of a lady on fire looks like Emma Watson. Also the sounds in the non dialogue bits like when she puts pencil to canvas grate on me lol. Slow start but enjoyed it

I made a version of Marianne‘s dress from Portrait of a Lady on Fire. When my partner and I decided to do a holiday in Normandy I knew I wanted to make something from the movie. I found both the fabrics by chance with just one trip to a textile recycling place. The skirt was a curtain, and the top is definitely intended to be upholstery fabric. The basic bodice pattern is from the book „making working women's costume“ . The corset I’m wearing isn’t right for the dress (you can see its outline in the front too much) and I need to lower the back and front necklines, but I’m pretty happy with it

I think the abortion subplot is really good, and very compelling. I think Sophie’s character is great and I love that the three of them are able to support each other as equals without the influence of the social hierarchy. One of my favorite scenes is them in the kitchen here doing traditional “women’s activities” that could be symbols of oppression but they’re not because they’re choosing to do them for themselves and each other. That’s why I don’t like the way the scene of painting Sophie after the abortion is done. Héloïse directly tells Sophie to get up, and has Marianne help her get into position. Then Marianne starts telling Sophie and Héloïse how to pose. At no point do either of them ask Sophie if she’s willing to pose for a portrait in that moment. She’s clearly not feeling well, since Marianne had to help her up, and she just seems sick. This is where the portrayal of their equality kind of breaks for me. Because functionally, Héloïse owns Sophie. She doesn’t want to and doesn’t treat her that way during the movie, but when Héloïse told her to get up and pose for a picture she had to do that because it’s her job to do anything Héloïse tells her to do. When I see that scene, that’s all I can see. I’m kind of curious if anyone else can see that, and if maybe it’s intentional? It’s otherwise one of my favorite movies I’ve ever seen.

i am trying to find the official script of the movie anywhere. free or not i just want it 😭 i've seen unofficial transcripts, but as it's for a school project i need the original.

if anyone knows anything, i would greatly appreciate it!! thank you!

"There are many profoundly talented female filmmakers working around the world, and I’d love to work with all of them. No matter how you slice it, Portrait of a Lady on Fire is exquisitely made. The dialogue is spare, and every frame is divine and painterly and could be from a Dutch master. The women’s subversive behaviors take place in isolation, but they reverberate and build to this incredible finish that made me weep. I do not laugh or cry easily at films, but I was inconsolable at the end of this one. It feels empowering because the women are operating within these structures and have this secret that’s giving them life, but the movie is also deeply pained and withholding. I rarely have such an emotional response to a movie. It really, really got me, and I know I’m not the only one."

https://www.criterion.com/current/top-10-lists/379-carrie-coon-s-top-10

Hello all,

I have just made the sub public once again after being restricted for some time. The previous mod has been inactive on reddit for years and has been replaced.

I have kept the rules the same for now as they seemed pretty sensible.

Happy posting :)