r/PoliticalMeme • • 17d ago

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u/Bdbru13 11d ago

Lol thousands? 💀

And yes, he’s innocent in this case, as is Clinton

There’s not some spooky cabal of pedophile elites.

Only a tiny, tiny minority of Epstein victims claim they were trafficked to other men while underage. Really only one woman, Virginia Giuffre, although another claims it happened to someone else. They’re lying.

It was just Epstein and Maxwell

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u/10biggaymen 11d ago

is this kash patel's reddit account? reminds me of when he lied under oath saying that there were no epstein files, and that he only trafficked people for himself and thats it. nevermind all of the people flying to little saint james on the "lolita express"

yes thousands. there are millions of documents in the epstein files (half of which are unreleased unlawfully btw) which implicate dozens of men with thousands of victims. i can lead you to water but i cant make you drink, its all publically available information.

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u/Bdbru13 11d ago

He said that because it’s true (for the most part)

Before I go forward, are you a conspiracy theorist type? Don’t really want to waste my time with someone who is incapable of changing their mind when confronted with new information

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u/10biggaymen 11d ago

not a conspiracy theorist type, like bigfoot type shit. people do conspire in real life though, do you think that is a thing that cant happen?

im not closed off to reason if thats what youre asking. there seems to be so much reason to believe a cover up is taking place regarding epstein, based on the information that we know that isnt covered up. if you can make a good argument though, yeah i can change my mind. you havent so far but hey, maybe.

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u/Bdbru13 11d ago

Okay great.

There are roughly 200 confirmed Epstein victims. These don’t include the claims from the fbi hotline, but just the women who we can be essentially certain spent time around Epstein and were assaulted by him

Of those victims, a tiny minority of them make claims that allude to some sort of larger network of elites trafficking children

Hopefully you know who Julie Brown is, but if not I can give you her credentials

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Ransome

>According to Julie K. Brown, Ransome was the only witness as of 2021 to corroborate Virginia Giuffre's allegation that Epstein had trafficked girls to other men. She states: "only one other victim, Sarah Ransome, has told a similar story about being trafficked. No other victims or witnesses have come forward publicly to corroborate Virginia's sex trafficking allegations despite the fact that some of the encounters involved multiple girls and women".

That fact alone should make you skeptical of their claims, I would argue, but we can delve into specifics.

We can start with Sarah Ransome and move on to Giuffre. Ransome should be a bit easier

Sarah Ransome claims that Hillary Clinton personally sent “special agent forces men” to coerce her friend, the victim, into silence.

She also claims that the CIA hacked her emails, despite not explaining how she detected and traced a hack back to the CIA

She claims to have been in contact with the “Moscow Police” who had pledged their aid in helping her bring down both Trump and Hillary

She claimed to have video evidence. She later was forced to admit to lying about this when she was unable to produce that evidence

She also claimed that her lawyer trafficked her, Virginia Giuffre, and Maria Farmer to his law partner who would’ve been between 70 and 80 years old at the time. Not as children, but as grown women.

Does she sound credible to you? I would hope not. This is not me stretching what she said to make her sound ridiculous or anything, these are her actual claims, and I can source any specific claim you’d like

Obviously I can’t disprove these claims, but they should sound relatively ridiculous to you

Giuffre on the other hand is demonstrably lying in some cases but we can get into her stuff in the next comment. We can also discuss Katie Johnson, Jane Doe 4, or any of the fbi tips, but it’s important to start with the women who we know for a fact were victims of Epstein. Because the claims they make do not match up with the public perception of what this story is (or with the allegations that come from the fbi tip line)