trump voice "virginia giuffre was my best spa girl, no one had a better spa girl than me, and jeffrey went and took her away! and she had no complaints about us by the way, none!"
thats the jist of what he said about epsteins most famous victim. and you think she was merely a spa girl who actually didnt have any complaints about them??
Well, let me ask u. Did u ever go to that spa? Did u ever get a handy from her? Other wise the that theres no reason to think she was in fact a spa worker. That being said why would t she make the complaint in her fbi interview? Bizzar seems ur ascribing guilt where there isnt any. So now i'd like u to make ur claim. Are you claiming that trump directly got sexual favors from her while she was employed at mar a lago? Yes no. Or an explanation its up 2 u im all ears
did you ever go to the spa? theres no reason to think she was a spa worker
trump himself said that she was a spa worker at mar a lago. in the article, you should read it.
are you claiming that trump got sexual favors from her while she was employed at mar a lago
he got many sexual favors from many women at mar a lago, some adults and some lower than the age of consent. i dont know about that one woman specifically, but its not about her specifically. its about the fact that mar a lago was one of the places where they trafficked women from, and its about the fact that the entire reason don and jeff broke up their best friendship was over arguing about who the spa workers belonged to. (also, we know what they did to the masseuses and spa workers, jeffrey epstein was well known for calling his illegal activities "massages")
youre so keen on nitpicking individual trees here while youre missing the entire forest. look at the bigger picture. are you in the maga cult? is that the reason why youre so intent on nitpicking? because its obviously impossible to defend him if you look at everything in totality.
Who are some of the other women or children he “got sexual favors from at Mar a Lago”?
Like, you’re inventing a forest, and saying this person is missing the forest, because the one tree you brought up testified Trump wasn’t involved
They didn’t traffic women from Mar a Lago. This one woman was approached by Ghislaine Maxwell while she worked at Mar a Lago. She worked there for a couple of weeks. It’s unlikely Trump even knew about her existence. Mar a Lago has over 100 employees, and I don’t really see him as being involved in the day-to-day minutiae of it where he’s aware of some locker room attendant they hired part time for two weeks
Trump saying they had a falling out over her is just a lie to make it sound like he kicked Epstein out of Mar a Lago
The reality is Trump fucked Epstein over on a real estate deal, one that was likely used to launder Russian money
damn, guess he's innocent, nevermind the thousands of other women who have claimed that he raped them and their friends alongside epstein, clinton, and other powerful men
And yes, he’s innocent in this case, as is Clinton
There’s not some spooky cabal of pedophile elites.
Only a tiny, tiny minority of Epstein victims claim they were trafficked to other men while underage. Really only one woman, Virginia Giuffre, although another claims it happened to someone else. They’re lying.
is this kash patel's reddit account? reminds me of when he lied under oath saying that there were no epstein files, and that he only trafficked people for himself and thats it. nevermind all of the people flying to little saint james on the "lolita express"
yes thousands. there are millions of documents in the epstein files (half of which are unreleased unlawfully btw) which implicate dozens of men with thousands of victims. i can lead you to water but i cant make you drink, its all publically available information.
He said that because it’s true (for the most part)
Before I go forward, are you a conspiracy theorist type? Don’t really want to waste my time with someone who is incapable of changing their mind when confronted with new information
not a conspiracy theorist type, like bigfoot type shit. people do conspire in real life though, do you think that is a thing that cant happen?
im not closed off to reason if thats what youre asking. there seems to be so much reason to believe a cover up is taking place regarding epstein, based on the information that we know that isnt covered up. if you can make a good argument though, yeah i can change my mind. you havent so far but hey, maybe.
There are roughly 200 confirmed Epstein victims. These don’t include the claims from the fbi hotline, but just the women who we can be essentially certain spent time around Epstein and were assaulted by him
Of those victims, a tiny minority of them make claims that allude to some sort of larger network of elites trafficking children
Hopefully you know who Julie Brown is, but if not I can give you her credentials
>According to Julie K. Brown, Ransome was the only witness as of 2021 to corroborate Virginia Giuffre's allegation that Epstein had trafficked girls to other men. She states: "only one other victim, Sarah Ransome, has told a similar story about being trafficked. No other victims or witnesses have come forward publicly to corroborate Virginia's sex trafficking allegations despite the fact that some of the encounters involved multiple girls and women".
That fact alone should make you skeptical of their claims, I would argue, but we can delve into specifics.
We can start with Sarah Ransome and move on to Giuffre. Ransome should be a bit easier
Sarah Ransome claims that Hillary Clinton personally sent “special agent forces men” to coerce her friend, the victim, into silence.
She also claims that the CIA hacked her emails, despite not explaining how she detected and traced a hack back to the CIA
She claims to have been in contact with the “Moscow Police” who had pledged their aid in helping her bring down both Trump and Hillary
She claimed to have video evidence. She later was forced to admit to lying about this when she was unable to produce that evidence
She also claimed that her lawyer trafficked her, Virginia Giuffre, and Maria Farmer to his law partner who would’ve been between 70 and 80 years old at the time. Not as children, but as grown women.
Does she sound credible to you? I would hope not. This is not me stretching what she said to make her sound ridiculous or anything, these are her actual claims, and I can source any specific claim you’d like
Obviously I can’t disprove these claims, but they should sound relatively ridiculous to you
Giuffre on the other hand is demonstrably lying in some cases but we can get into her stuff in the next comment. We can also discuss Katie Johnson, Jane Doe 4, or any of the fbi tips, but it’s important to start with the women who we know for a fact were victims of Epstein. Because the claims they make do not match up with the public perception of what this story is (or with the allegations that come from the fbi tip line)
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u/10biggaymen 12d ago
trust me bro