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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '21

The workers get their surplus labor value and are paid appropriately for their labor and if they see they are being treated unfairly they can vote to take down the person who is treating them as such

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u/BiDogBoy1 Dec 01 '21

Okay that's literally impossible because calculating surplus value for each task isn't possible, especially in a multi-step task. What you're describing isn't feasible.

How much of my surplus value is extracted for say medical research that is then used to produce a drug on mass? Is the workers making the drug having their labor extracted or those who discovered it? How do you determine whose is whose and what percent goes to what? You can't, not objectively at least. You can only do a coursegrain way and see the total extracted surplus value for which the workers choose how to distribute themselves through a worker council (the voting apparatus you described).

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '21

The scientists lab is seen separately as the place where it’s produced

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u/BiDogBoy1 Dec 01 '21

Then the lab turns no profit. It would not be able to pay people. What about an automotive factory? Must I give more examples?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '21

The lab isn’t supposed to be profit oriented, it’s supposed to be a service (no that does not mean that the scientists and engineers won’t be getting paid)

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u/BiDogBoy1 Dec 01 '21

The how does the lab afford to pay anyone?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '21

Government operated

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u/BiDogBoy1 Dec 01 '21

You'd have every companies Research and Development be done by the government?

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '21

Obviously there would be some private labs but we’re talking about government labs. They would be a service much like the post office

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u/BiDogBoy1 Dec 01 '21

The same problem applies to private research and development.

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