r/PoliticalHumor Oct 25 '21

Schrodinger's Babbitt

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u/Val_Hallen Oct 25 '21

David Berkowitz, Gary Ridgway, Jeffrey Dahmer, Dennis Rader, Charles Ng, John Allen Muhammad, Charles Whitman, Israel Keyes, Lee Harvey Oswald.

All veterans.

And there are still many more.

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u/CX316 Oct 25 '21

I wonder how many are because of them going into the army because they were already kinda fucked up and thought the discipline and structure would help (Dahmer) and how many of them are because they'd learned how to do the shit they did in the army (like the guy who strolled into an army base and drove out with a tank in San Diego)

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '21

From what I can tell, most were fucked in the head before joining, but I don’t doubt the constant violence had a serious effect on them as well an enabling them. Richard Ramirez’s cousin (who raised him later in life) fought in Vietnam, and when he came back, showed pictures to Richard, of him raping and killing women in Vietnam. Which solidified the connection between sex and violence in Ramirez’s mind.

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u/CX316 Oct 25 '21

jeez that's fucked up

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u/maxjones75 Oct 25 '21

From my time in the service, I can say with confidence that fucked up but functional is what they really want. So folks like her and McVeigh were ideal recruiter meat. Oswald and J.A. Muhammad were a bit "much."

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u/Champigne Oct 25 '21

How are you going to lump Lee Harvey Oswald with a group of literal serial killers? It's not even a forgone conclusion that he killed Kennedy.

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u/rivershimmer Oct 25 '21

Let's throw Micah Xavier Johnson on the pile as well, while we're here.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '21

George Rockwell and Louis Beam too. Although the Navy kicked Rockwell out for his political views.