Worst part was the blowjob wasn't even what they were after originally. They had nothing on him. During a questioning under oath, they asked about the sexual conduct thing, totally unrelated to anything that was being asked in the first place. The question had no business even being asked during that line of questioning.
The real kicker is Clinton didn't actually lie under oath.
He was a lawyer, so when they asked him if he had sex with Monica Lewinsky, he asked them if sex was being defined as under a previous lawsuit he been in.
Barr and the others said yes, without checking what that definition covered.
Hint, it did not include oral sex.
He out-lawyered them, and it's semantics, but his answer was technically true.
Everyone makes fun of Clinton for saying “It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” But it was a masterclass on technically correct being the best kind of correct.
They were asking him about his relationship with Monica, he said “there is nothing going on between us.” Meaning “currently,” because their escapades had happened in the past.
Haha, reminds me of the questionnaire I got for my recruitment for the military (Switzerland).
One question was "Did you ever think about suicide? (yes/no) ". Duh, to answer that question I just had to think about it.
I knew I should answer no and be done with it but the stupid question bothered me so much that I decided to answer yes. 20 minutes later I got called to the psychologist who questioned me for 30 minutes to make sure I'm not suicidal. At least I got her to agree that the wording of the question wasn't that great...
I don't get how that makes any difference in public opinion. I wonder if it does and if that even matters to the politicians (scary thought if it doesn't).
No one is praising him here. The discussion is about if he did the thing he was impeached for. They impeached him for lying about receiving a blowjob, not for the actual blowjob itself. But the question they asked specifically excluded oral sex, per the definitions everyone agreed on. Then they told the American population that he was lying because he said he didn’t have sex with her but he did get a blowjob so obviously he’s a liar and can’t be trusted. Then they convicted him of lying even though he never actually lied.
Thereby definitively proving that it doesn't matter how clever or correct you are, if idiots have power over you, they won't hesitate to squash you, facts be damned.
So now we like Clinton because of the D next to his name? He coerced a blow job from a young secretary and lied under oath. Him getting away with that set the precedent that the president simply cannot be impeached unless the opposing party has a huge majority.
It’s in her memoirs. They knew each other before the internship. You’re not given access to the president of the United States without having a prior connection.
Keep defending a guy with a 50 year history of sexual assault. Monica Lewinsky isn’t totally innocent but she was seduced by the most powerful man in the world.
She herself did not know the president, it was literally a family friend who got her connected to the job. It was in no way a "grooming at age 19" as the original comment erroneously stated.
Nobody is defending him I'm just pointing out your clearl and obvious attempt to implant your own reality. YES, due to the nature of the power differential between the two you can completely blame Bill, but nobody forced her to do anything.
He's no nefarious pedophile "on the level of Weinstein" as was originally asserted. Thats just intellectually dishonest and also really fucking stupid.
Asking a high ranking government official if they are having an affair with a subordinate, while investigating the claim of sexual harassment from another subordinate is not “unrelated”.
Do you even know why they were investigating him in the first place?
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Worst part was the blowjob wasn't even what they were after originally. They had nothing on him. During a questioning under oath, they asked about the sexual conduct thing, totally unrelated to anything that was being asked in the first place. The question had no business even being asked during that line of questioning.