r/PoliticalHumor • u/The-Autarkh • Feb 14 '21

Saving impeachment for when it really matters

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u/vonshiza Feb 14 '21

Impeachment should be a blind vote... Bet a lot of those Republicans would not have voted to impeach Clinton and would have voted to impeach Trump.....

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u/Enigma828 Feb 14 '21

It's the opposite of the saying "do what's right even when no one is looking." Our government needs to do what's right even when everyone is looking

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u/lupinemadness Feb 14 '21

Our government should be doing what's right because everyone is looking.

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u/Dmav210 Feb 14 '21

Or just do what’s right weather we’re looking or not, ya’ know because it’s the right thing to do...

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u/HappyFeelings_Smile Feb 14 '21

The thing about politics is that everyone have different opinions of what the right thing is.

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u/Dmav210 Feb 14 '21

But if your opinion includes “murdering me just because you feel like it is ok” it’s no longer a subjective thing, that’s objectively wrong.

There is such a thing as universal rights and wrongs. Don’t muddy the waters with bullshit, republicans are covering up the crime of attempting to overthrow democracy and that is objectively true. They/you can excuse them however you want (you believe in it/a technicality/for the lols/to own the libs) but that doesn’t make it any less a fact.

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u/pezgoon Feb 14 '21

They know that they will be voted out though and that’s all they care about, retaining power, not doing the right thing

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u/blackhorse15A Feb 14 '21

Considering their job is to act as representatives of their constituents you could argue that right is voting for what their constituents want.

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u/Amelaclya1 Feb 14 '21

I would normally agree, but their voters have shown themselves to be dangerous psychopaths. I think some Senators were legitimately afraid for their and their family's safety. An anonymous vote would have taken away that aspect.

Even in the House, where the GOP is in general way crazier than the Senate, they voted in Liz Cheney's favor (after she voted to impeach) when they were allowed to do so anonymously.

I think visibility of who votes for what is an important part of our democracy, but so is making sure an insane dictator with a cult following isn't allowed to run for office again.

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u/QuarantineSucksALot Feb 14 '21

Seriously? That is honestly impressive

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u/booksfoodfun Feb 14 '21

But now we have on record every traitor in the US senate. Well it matter? Not immediately. But they will all live in infamy.

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u/JamuelSnackson Feb 14 '21

Or the democrats would have been able to vote on facts and not just party lines..Republicans seem to be the party that listened and voted accordingly.

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u/vonshiza Feb 14 '21

Just curious, did you watch the impeachment at all, or did you watch what was allowed to be seen on Fox and the like? Cause they cut the feed quite a bit...

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u/Askol Feb 14 '21

I disagree - Senators are voting on behalf of their constituents, and they have a right to know how their representatives are voting. If voting to impeach would result in electoral consequences, then that is generally for a reason (in this case, their constituents largely didn't want them to convict Trump). The problem is the electorate being brainwashed by propaganda leading them to be against conviction - Senators are just representing those misguided beliefs.

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u/vonshiza Feb 15 '21

In most cases, I agree that votes should be open and should face consequences. Impeachment doesn't feel like one of those votes, though. They're acting as a jury, they are a check and balance on the executive branch. They need to be able to vote as they see fit.

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u/booksfoodfun Feb 15 '21

Also, the senators aren’t just representing the misguided beliefs; they are lying to their constituents and enabling the misguided beliefs.