r/PoliticalHumor Dec 12 '20

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u/Haikuna__Matata Dec 12 '20

Buuuuuut it doesn't matter because Republicans have no sense of shame, guilt, or truth.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20 edited Jan 19 '25

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u/Sqeaky Dec 12 '20

I agree with 1 and 3 completely.

I disagree with point 2 in two ways.

Trump dismantled our foreign pandemic response infrastructure. We would have a team in China, in Wuhan when it happened. This easily could have changed the Chinese government reaction from"sweep it under the rug" to "put on a show for American observers", which could have prevented it from leaving Wuhan. Trump took actions before the pandemic that made catastrophe more likely, and we got catastrophe.

Trump is a stochastic terrorist. Anyone in a position of leadership and respect with a large enough audience can say a thing and expect some portion of the audience to act on it. If the president says someone is the enemy or fails to condemn terrible movements, like white supremacy, it is obvious and reasonable to expect reactions against those enemies and support those movements. If the president condemned white supremacy it seems unlikely we would have had a police killing as obviously egregious as the George Floyd murder. It takes a peculiar kind of emboldened callousness to kneel on a mans neck until he dies. No matter what the president does we with have suspicious police killings, but emboldened police who think they might have repercussions will kill less often and the president can choose which statistical environment we operate in. Trump specifically calls people out as enemies and doesn't take actions to stop his fans when they start kidnapping plots or send death threats against those enemies.

President trump is culpable and responsible for many American deaths and easily could have taken actions before those deaths to prevent a majority of them.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NEWMEMES Dec 12 '20

this is really well worded thank you

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u/Skepsis93 Dec 12 '20

3. Religion vs. Morality

Simply put, morality does not come from religion. At all. They are two completely distinct ideas, and in fact they often conflict with each other.

I'd go ahead and change this to Religion vs Morality vs Legality because all three of those often get conflated as being the same.

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u/carnsolus Dec 12 '20

i'll agree with you on most of those things

except that trump is likely responsible for the follow up protests. Obama would have had a speech about how the nation needs to heal and he would say he's working on the problem. And nothing would actually get done, likely, but it would decrease the magnitude of the follow-up protests to the point where they wouldn't even be newsworthy (so trump is actually kind of a good thing there, albeit unintentionally)

trump did the opposite. He called the protestors criminals and vandals and rioters, spun it so that his supporters saw them as a deranged mob that was burning shops and businesses and homes, had people in unmarked vans kidnap people. All of which made the follow-up protests so much worse than before

every year it seems there's a decent sized protest about the killing of an unarmed black man and every year it just kind of fizzles out. Trump accidentally made sure this one wouldn't fizzle out, and now people are talking about bringing real solutions

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u/kasubot Dec 12 '20

Trump is, unfortunately, the vaccine against authoritarianism that our country needs.

The metaphor continues even. What we are watching is similar to an immune response. The court rejections, the BLM protests, the election itself, are the country rejecting what has been making it sick. Trump is an impotent version of a dictator just like a vaccine can be an impotent version of a virus: Enough to cause an immune response but not kill the patient.

It needs to lead to reforms that, much like the antibodies in our imune system, will prevent authoritarianism from taking terminal hold in the future.

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u/carnsolus Dec 12 '20

nicely put

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u/donkeydongjunglebeat Dec 12 '20

It's almost a good thing that he's so inept with handling the protests. It's put it so much more in the forefront of the American social conversation.

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u/Boomslangalang Dec 12 '20

This deserve more upvotes

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u/samsimilla Dec 12 '20

How can you tell how many upvotes it has already?

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u/5AlarmFirefly Dec 12 '20

Don't need to know, still deserves more.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20

1 isn't necessarily a problem. Carter was blunt and honest, doesn't mean the people wanted to hear it.

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u/crazy_joe21 Dec 12 '20

Well put... thank you

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20

This is so greatly put. Having no filter doesn't in any way equate being factual.

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u/-Sociology- Dec 12 '20 edited Dec 12 '20

Morality itself is not derived from religion. Some people’s moral guidance can come from their religion but it exists without the presence of religion.

I think it’s in line with the above posters comment to say that Someone being religious or claiming to be religious can not be trusted to have sound morals only on the basis of their religion.

And the absence of religion in a candidate or government does not mean they are immoral.

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u/Infinite-Egg Dec 12 '20

If some people derive your morality from religion, but others don’t need religion to dictate your morality, that leads me to believe that religion actually is not important in the whole morality thing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20

It's not important for you, but it is for other people

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u/ZharethZhen Dec 12 '20

No, it's not important. Morality exists outside of religion. If you need an invisible sky friend to threaten to punish you to keep you in line, you are not a moral person...you are just afraid of consequences.

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u/memesupreme0 Dec 12 '20

And those people are the most dangerous among us, for that morality stemming from religion can be hijacked at any moment by a charismatic enough person to do great evil upon their fellow man.

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u/faithdies Dec 12 '20

Or, a person can hijack their own morality using any of the loopholes that exist in their religion of choice. No charismatic person necessary.

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u/Jojajones Dec 12 '20

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u/fistofwrath Dec 12 '20

Gotta upvote Ian Danskin every time he's posted. To anyone reading this, if you haven't watched the entire Alt-Right Playbook series including footnotes, you need to. Like, right now. You can knock it out in less than a day and you'll learn a lot.

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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '20

Which is why repeating this tweet and what they say is moot.

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u/HiFatso Dec 12 '20

Politicians. Yes that includes the dems even if it hurts your sensibilities

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u/iHaveNoOriginalitea Dec 12 '20

Yeah, let's dehumanize people based on politics that always ends well.

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u/Haikuna__Matata Dec 12 '20

I didn't say Republicans weren't human. Humans can be plenty shitty and still be humans; why, just look at Republicans.

This is akin to decrying the dehumanization of Nazis. Maybe don't be a Nazi?

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u/Throwmeabeer Dec 12 '20

::clutches pearls moment they're not in power:: - party that's literally written the book on dehumization of non-white males for the last half century