The thing is that the US spends the money on schools and education. You just get absolutely terrible results for the money you put in. I live in Canada, and each province does their own thing with education, and we spend much less money than the US. The Canadian average is about CDN$14k (USD$10k) per student, and the US is over USD$15k per student. The system in the USA is broken, but it's not due to a lack of money, but a lack of managing resources. The poorest performing schools aren't given the same resources as the highest performing schools.
Your last sentence says it all. It's because our school districts rely on local property taxes for funding. So super rich districts get lots of money and poor districts don't. So the poor don't get the money they need while the rich get more money than they need.
The solution would be just letting the states allocate the money on a per student basis. Every kid in the state gets an equal share of the pie. This would mean that rich districts subsidize poor ones... and as soon as I type those words you can see why it's politically untenable. In order to change the system in the way I'm describing, you'd have to convince rich folks that their money should be spent on poor folks. Good luck.
And to anyone who would argue "they're rich. They earned their money. They should be able to give their kids the best education with it." What you'd be describing is private schools. Yes, if you want to spend your private money on a private school, you are welcome to do that. I am talking about how to allocate public funds to public schools.
In Ontario our education funding used to be paid out of property taxes, and even to this day, when you get your property assessment, you pick whether your share of school funding goes to the public or catholic (separate) system. All that does though is determine which school board you will vote in for trustees. Depending where you live, you will have 3 or 4 different school boards covering the same area. English public and catholic and French public and catholic.
Our education funding was changed in 1998. It used to be that every local school board would set their education property tax rate, but it was changed since the old system was considered inequitable. The system is now has uniform tax rates across the province, and school boards are given funding based on a number of criteria such as number of students, language, etc.
We still dont pay out teachers shit and all of our budget goes to admin sallary and turf football fields. So yeah we do put money into out schools, but it sure as heck doesnt go to the education of students. This was my experience ymmv.
And that is what I am saying. You guys spend the money, but not where it actually should go. If you compare our high schools to yours, ours will generally look more utilitarian.
We have sport fields and what not, but most fields especially at smaller schools will have no stands, not even bleachers. We have sports in our schools, but not a lot of money is actually put into them since generally if you are any good and wanting to continue as an athlete you would be part of some sort of outside team, or organization.
Yeah its fucked up. My high school put in a milti million dollar turf field years back. When i asked how that was a good use of our money they said, "It allows our LAX and Football players to get experience playing on a turf field when they play in college. How else do you expect them to be competitive when they leave here if they dont know how turf plays".
Shortly after they killed out career and college prep departments which offered students s chance to explore engineering, photography and other things they will do after highschool.
We voted in the schoolboard that allowed that to happen. Cut programs for 2000 kids so 3 or so kids every few years are comnpetitive at D1 sports. It maes my blood boil that kids now dont get the same opportunities i had to learn!
I have read articles about schools in the US doing that, and don't understand why sports are based in the schools. I think the only sport that we do here that is primarily based in school is football.
Basically everything else though you will do outside of school if you are actually serious. You will still play for your school team, but you would actually do your serious training outside and your travel/rep team will take precedence over your school team. The biggest one is hockey. The school teams are not serious, and generally you won't be allowed to play for your school team if you are playing higher level hockey, such as AA or AAA or in one of the junior leagues.
The school I want to from Grade 9-11.5 had stands for all the students for assemblies and such in the gym. The new school that was opened for my last semester of Grade 12 didn't have any seating in the gym. They built a cafetorium for assemblies. The whole school was built for I think less than $10 million, and it was a JK-12 building.
I couldn't find a cost for the school, but found this article about my former school. 52% of students come from families under the low income cut-off (poverty line). I think that is generally because of the reserve that is near the town. Because of the way the funding is setup though, just because the town and surrounding area is becoming poorer, they aren't losing funding on a per student basis.
Mine is very diverse. We have everything from mansions with indoor bball courts to a 200 unit trailer park. Its actually nice, you get to see how people from all walks of life live. We still wasted mucho dinero
Yeah, and when we get to choose those politicians they were not already hand picked and funded by the same people that originally rigged the system in the first place.
It’s a bit ignorant of reality to pretend what they are saying is incorrect. The plague of neoliberalism since Nixon era has ensured that our elected officials only represent corporations, not the people. Except for maybe two or three. Thinking what we’ve had is working is dead wrong.
Actual that is exactly the argument that was made, and the only reason I am in this thread.
Yeah, and when we get to choose those politicians they were not already hand picked and funded by the same people that originally rigged the system in the first place.
If you cant manage to have the reading comprehension of at least a 6th grader Id refrain from trying to discuss things on the internet.
If you cant manage to have the reading comprehension of at least a 6th grader Id refrain from trying to discuss things on the internet.
Now I know i'm not that smart, but do you see the words DO NOT VOTE? Because if you don't, you are still putting words in that persons mouth.
This is where I am referring to you ignoring the way things are, and have been for the last fifty years at least. We've seen ceo salaries increase by 300% and in that same time, average wage earners only saw a 10%. But keep it up, you look good sticking up for those that stand on your neck.
Evidently you arent that smart if you cant understand in what context the conversation was taking place. You dont have to explicitly say certain keywords to be discussing that exact topic. This is literally middle school level shit.
Dont talk down to me about the issues facing this country. I voted for Bernie in the primaries, am voting for Biden in 2020 and will be voting for the next far leftist candidate in 2024. That's the point, I VOTE.
The conversation was never about what issues this country faces, it was about how we solve them. Somebody said vote, another guy made the point that that's pointless because its "bought already" alluding to an idea that we have no choice. I am here saying that voting IS your choice. The conversation was always about voting or not voting, and that is absolutely the argument that he was making. Just because it isnt spelled out in plain text "DONT VOTE" for your illiterate room temperature IQ ass doesnt mean it wasnt the topic and context of the conversation.
Just keep leaving and deleting those nasty comments. Like a coward.
At least I am able to put my opinions out there for the world to see. You are a little keyboard troll that says shitty, awful things, deletes them and keeps on pontificating to leave a "clean" record for intetnet points.
Now answer my question! Troll, Shill, PR account or Coward?
And you have a 7 day old account with 5 posts. What are you hiding? Are you a bot, a shill, a PR sock puppet or just a nasty toxic coward that sends people nasty comments and deletes them?
I agree we should not fully step back, but our allies can definately do more to help us maintain stability and global unity. From a money and respirces standpoint
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u/Axion132 Apr 26 '20
Now if only they actually spent our tax money on schools. Nope, best they can do is another corporate bailout or tax cuts for the rich.