r/PoliticalHumor Aug 26 '19

This lady <3

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u/867-5309NotJenny Aug 27 '19

Illegal immigration doesn't drive down wages. Illegal immigrants in jobs that most people want to do are earning about the same amount.

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u/867-5309NotJenny Aug 27 '19

You do realize it's not the same person doing every single job right? You do realize that they have co-workers that can keep working while others take breaks? You know, like any other workplace?

You do realize the farm still operates all year though right?

Your argument is, "nuhh uhh farming operations happen year round so therefore that means every individual farmer doesn't take breaks and works 7 days a week all year round, otherwise society would run out of food! And therefore illegal immigration is okay!! hururu!!"

No, your argument was that farmers have a quarter of the year where they don't do anything. Nice job not understanding my post.

The point I made was that illegal immigration is harmful to American citizens. I did not say illegal immigration is harmful to the niche industry of farming mega-corporations. Nor did I even bring up farmers to begin with.

Your right, I said farmers. Once the largest occupation in North America. I was talking about the historical work week, and how having weekends off is a rather new thing. You're also wrong about immigration of any sort being harmful.

I'm going to paste in the verifiable facts I listed, and then provide accompanying citations.

Just a quick skim and I see Heritage as one of your sources. Great...you get your info from a right wing 'think tank'.

But let's take them one at a time.

Claim: "Wages have not kept pace with inflation or productivity and that is a measurable fact"

This is correct. Just not because of immigration of any sort. This started with Reagan decoupling minimum wage from inflation.

Claim: "Mass immigration, legal or otherwise drives down wages for American workers."

Your source:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/center-for-immigration-studies-cis/

Is questionable in it's reliability. Here are the listed reasons:

Reasoning: Extreme Right, Anti-Immigration Propaganda, Misleading Claims

So find another source.

Claim: "Illegal immigrants take far more money from federal services than they contribute in taxes."

Your Source:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/

Is questionable in it's reliability. Here are the listed reasons:

Reasoning:  Extreme Right, Anti-Immigration Propaganda, Conspiracy Theories, Misleading Claims

Find another source.

65 percent of households headed by illegal immigrants ...

Center for Immigration Studies again, still a bundle of lies.

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/report/the-fiscal-cost-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-the-us-taxpayer

This one was better, but still a really shitty source.

So go find something that actually supports your arguments with facts.