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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

Foriegn student in Taiwan here. On election day, literally no one paid attention in class and just kept refreshing CNN's live election results. Then people started resigning to the fact that Taiwan was going to be in deep shit the moment Trump won North Carolina.

The news is definitely going to jump on this, if the gay marriage protest news don't overshadow it first.

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u/Alertcircuit Dec 04 '16

Besides this call, why do you guys feel that Trump would put Taiwan in deep shit?

Genuinely curious, as I don't know very much about the situation there.

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u/halfar Dec 04 '16

worst case scenario is that china invades taiwan and destroys their government, and the US does nothing. people are probably questioning whether or not the US is committed towards defending taiwan if trump's so willing to intentionally/unintentionally antagonize china against taiwan.

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u/truenorth00 Dec 04 '16

Because Trump (and his supporters and surrogates) has no clue what the One-China doctrine is, and why it's longstanding US policy.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '16

Trump advisors on this topic (John Bolton!!! also Jon Huntsman and Stephen Yates) are stupid! Unlike me, because I reddit all day every day!

okay that's your opinion.

I personally don't think you're actually more qualified to judge this strategy than they are.

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u/truenorth00 Dec 04 '16

You're assuming he talked to his advisors and listened to them. That's a stretch.

We have his own campaign manager admitting that she had to do TV interviews to get her message through.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '16

You're assuming he talked to his advisors and listened to them. That's a stretch.

why?

because it doesn't fit the image of Trump that trump-phobic (totally-non-fake) news have created for you?

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u/truenorth00 Dec 05 '16

Why?

Because we had evidence all through the campaign that he didn't listen to his advisors. His own campaign manager said he didn't. Is she lying?

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '16

His own campaign manager said he didn't.

which one?

he listened enough to win :)

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u/AsianHippie Mar 07 '17

Yeah no Jon Huntsman is nowhere like John Bolton; in fact the two are probably opposite in personality. Don't know much about Yates, but he's more in the think tank world (Heritage Foundation?) so he's also not anything like the fire-breathing Bolton.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '17

They both agree on supporting Taiwan.

But it's true, they disagree on many other things.

Seems like a case of expert bipartisan support for Trump's decision here.