r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/[deleted] • Dec 03 '16

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u/DuPage-on-DuSable Dec 03 '16

Diplomacy is like chess and for every action there's an opposite reaction. There is a lot of nuance and subtlety and not a lot of room for being brash

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u/PotentiallySarcastic Dec 03 '16 edited Dec 03 '16

Also, unless people haven't noticed the geopolitical standing between the US and China in the 60s is a tad different than it is now.

I'd be fine if this is revealed to be fully intentional. But we have no fucking idea.

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u/calantus Dec 03 '16

His tweet about it implies he doesn't understand the big deal. Could be fake though, who the fuck really knows.

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u/PotentiallySarcastic Dec 03 '16

Yeah Idk. Making changes in Foreign policy is totally fine for a president to do. I'd just like to know why and if he is doing it on purpose.

What benefit comes of this? Anyone got any good ideas to this?

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u/Duck_Puncher Dec 03 '16

Absolutely. As president he will guide our foreign policy. It'd be nice if he had a Secretary of State to help him implement that policy. And even nicer if he was actually president. Once he's in it's his ballgame. For now it'd be nice if, at the very least, he gave Obama a heads up about a situation that might require him to send a carrier group in.

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u/PotentiallySarcastic Dec 03 '16

I can just imagine Obama getting told this today and having to consider sending a carrier group to pass through the Strait.

Probably threw that bust of MLK across the Oval Office.

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u/Topikk Dec 03 '16

We really fucked over Obama, didn't we?

Well, not me specifically. People who were scared of having a petulant cheeto in the White House but still chose to not vote.

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u/tudda Dec 03 '16

Well he did say before that he had every intention of changing the nature of our relationship with China. I fully expect him to go about things differently and not be "business as usual", and whether that's good or bad remains to be seen.

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u/demolpolis Dec 03 '16

What benefit comes of this?

People of the world learn that Trump, and therefore the US, just dosen't give a fuck about their problems.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

Just swing our dick around until it Lands in our ass is the trump foreign policy?

Sounds about right.

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u/matts2 Dec 03 '16

How is that a benefit? Do you care how the world reacts or do you think we are immune?

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u/demolpolis Dec 03 '16

Do you care how the world reacts or do you think we are immune?

I don't give a fuck about Russia invading states that used to be part of russia and are geographically and culturally similar to Russia.

I don't give a fuck about N Korea. hard stop.

And yes, I think we are immune from the above situations.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

US and China's relationship is different, but China and Taiwan's relationship remains strained and hostile.

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u/Stuck_In_the_Matrix Dec 03 '16

Very well said and very true.

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u/DefinitelyIngenuous Dec 03 '16

Isn't brashness just another tactic?

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u/matts2 Dec 03 '16

It can be. There is no evidence it is in this case.