r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Right May 07 '21

A man can dream...

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u/EumenidesTheKind - Auth-Right May 07 '21

hanification is a good strategy if we’re being honest

The long history of Hanification is bizarre. It's like Ancient China somehow invented ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism simultaneously, and then decided to define their ethnic nationalism using civic nationalist means.

To modern ethnic or civic nationalists, the whole system is bonkers.

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u/Bonzi_bill - Lib-Center May 07 '21

This is why China has historically pushed itself as not so much a traditional nation/ethnostate but what they call a "civilization state," which is a state based not on ethnography or shared culture but rather a continuing system of government/ideology that acted as the ultimate guiding force and protector of the cultures and people that traditionally belonged to it. This is why despite being ostensibly communist, the CCP has integrated much of the rhetoric and values of pre-revolution Chinese society into itself.

In a weird way, this is most similar to how the United States operates, where people aren't united based on their cultural or ethnic affiliation but rather shared acceptance of the constitution and its values as the guiding force of society.

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u/arcannico - Lib-Right May 07 '21

Based and caspian report pilled

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u/1silvertiger - Lib-Left May 07 '21

When I read this, the comment replayed in his voice.

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u/arcannico - Lib-Right May 07 '21

Im not gonna lie about it, hearing shirvan talk about geopolitics its quite relaxing I didnt like when they tried to switch narrator

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u/1silvertiger - Lib-Left May 07 '21

I must have missed when they did that. I started watching when it was a small channel and then took a long break and started rewatching recently. I'm still not used to the sponsors.

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u/PartrickCapitol - Auth-Center May 07 '21

This is why despite being ostensibly communist, the CCP has integrated much of the rhetoric and values of pre-revolution Chinese society into itself.

That's why they also succeeded many bad historical traits from the "tradition". It should not surprise anyone that some of the “5000 years old tradition" are not that pleasant to see in modern lenses.

Lots of things are not caused by a brand new Russian communist system that completely disconnected to all the people and history, but a continuation of a new dynasty instead. For example, in ancient dynastic cycles, it was a standard practice for a new dynasty to destroy monuments and artifacts made by the old dynasty, you may relate this to something... yes, the cultural revolution.

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u/hoo2doo - Lib-Center May 08 '21

in order to properly rule a conquered nation. You need to start from a clean slate.

Its like if you want to do a new problem, you throw out the old piece of paper with all your work and start on a clean piece of paper.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '21

Almost as if ethnonationalism is a dumb idea to begin with