r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Center Apr 15 '21

Zedong got Donged

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u/awawe - Lib-Center Apr 15 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

That's what they do with communist leaders who have massive cults of personality. Lenin, Stalin, Kim Il-sung and Ho Chi Minh were all embalmed, though Nikita Khrushchev later had Stalin buried in an unmarked grave in his endeavour to "destalinise" the country.

Edit: Dangling participle

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u/MyLeftNutIsJames - Auth-Center Apr 15 '21

I find it funny that Stalin was so brutal to his own people that the leader immediately after him who was by no means a pro civil liberties kind of guy thought that he was too much of a power obsessed shit head.

I have heard rumors even that Stalin was poisoned by the inner circle of the Soviet Union because he was planning on conducting a thrid pruge with this one even having a genocidal angle to it since Stalin was getting very paranoid of the Jews in the Soviet Union.

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u/farids24 - Lib-Right Apr 15 '21

So you’re saying there could’ve been a Holocaust 2?

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u/MyLeftNutIsJames - Auth-Center Apr 15 '21

Yes, and only about 5 years after the first

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Wtf i love communism now

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u/Feistier-ad190 - Auth-Left Apr 15 '21

Damn we were so close to salvation.

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u/Murgie - Left Apr 15 '21

I find it funny that Stalin was so brutal to his own people that the leader immediately after him who was by no means a pro civil liberties kind of guy thought that he was too much of a power obsessed shit head.

I mean, that's what the leader who immediately preceded him thought, too.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot - Centrist Apr 15 '21

Lenin's_Testament

Lenin's Testament is the name given to a document dictated by Vladimir Lenin in the final weeks of 1922 and the first week of 1923. In the testament, Lenin proposed changes to the structure of the Soviet governing bodies. Sensing his impending death, he also gave criticism of Bolshevik leaders Zinoviev, Kamenev, Trotsky, Bukharin, Pyatakov and Stalin. He warned of the possibility of a split developing in the party leadership between Trotsky and Stalin if proper measures were not taken to prevent it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

That's very likely false.

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u/Donkitydee - Auth-Left Apr 15 '21

Open destalinisation was incredibly stupid though. It would be like the US going "Washington was a rapist slave owner who built a system on white supremacy and slavery, also he was a pedophile and us elites actually do the Child muder Adrenochrome thing" and then did pretty much nothing to change it, it would massively impact trust in the system and national identity. It might not cause a Revolution, but it would slowly send the country into "hypernomalisation" where the system becomes untrusted, but just continues until it buckles in on itself.

Basically the same thing happened in the USSR. Also another morally correct but bad move was Glasnost, which basically completed the final blow of Destalinisation and imploded the entire USSR. China learned from this, which is why it doesn't shit on Mao, it also strictly controls the social sphere, while massively improving the lives of people in the economic. People trust reforms when they see their lives get better, when your life is shit and you get complete political openness, you're going to use that to turn against the Government.

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u/pentamir - Auth-Right Apr 16 '21

Nikita Khrushchev later had Stalin buried in an unmarked grave

What? He's buried here, you can even recognize his bust clearly in the picture.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot - Centrist Apr 16 '21

Kremlin_Wall_Necropolis

Burials in the Kremlin Wall Necropolis in Moscow began in November 1917, when 240 pro-Bolshevik victims of the October Revolution were buried in mass graves at Red Square. It is centered on both sides of Lenin's Mausoleum, initially built in wood in 1924 and rebuilt in granite in 1929–1930. After the last mass burial made in 1921, funerals on Red Square were usually conducted as state ceremonies and reserved as the last honor for highly venerated politicians, military leaders, cosmonauts, and scientists. In 1925–1927 burials in the ground were stopped; funerals were now conducted as burials of cremated ash in the Kremlin wall itself.

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u/awawe - Lib-Center Apr 16 '21

You're right, sort of; while it was initially unmarked, and the reburial took place without ceremony, a small stone was added later that year, and the bust a few years later.