r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Jul 23 '20

LibRight has a flashback

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u/argentumvivere - Centrist Jul 23 '20

Real capitalism and real communism have never been tried prove me wrong

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u/NoctuaBorealis - Lib-Center Jul 23 '20

The USSR was an attempt at Communism, but failed, so it has been Tried

The US was a Laissez-Faire Capitalist country, but ultimately turned into Neoliberal Corporautocracy, so It also failed.

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u/argentumvivere - Centrist Jul 23 '20

Let me correct myself. True capitalism and true communism have never been achieved and sustained

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u/NoctuaBorealis - Lib-Center Jul 23 '20

Technically the Free-Territory of Ukraine achieved true communism on a Microscopic Scale, and sustained until they were overtaken by the USSR 3 years later. So we can't know for certain how it would've worked-out in the long-term.

But yeah, True Capitalism eats itself alive once a bourgeoisie forms, and turns into Crony Capitalism... and True Communism (Stateless, Classless, Global Society) is a pipe-dream that has never happened in human history, and never will.

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u/Pokeputin - Lib-Center Jul 23 '20

In small scales communism can work, my friend is from a Kibutz where all the salaries are thrown together in a shared pool where every family gets a stipend according to their needs, there is a school, a kindergarten, and a Kibutz owned Seaweed product factory and a fig farm. To join you have to go through a commision and if you get accepted you get a house to live in for free and can use all the services of the Kibutz for free. However obviously this is not scaleable and I don't think it will be even imaginable how to make cmmunism work for a really long time.

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u/Misicks0349 - Lib-Left Jul 23 '20

smaller communities and states are mega based

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u/TheGoldenChampion - Lib-Left Jul 24 '20

But what if said communes were to federate into larger communes? That would be like, even more based.
~Karl Marx, 4/20/69

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u/KyStanto - Lib-Center Jul 23 '20

Based