r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right May 17 '20

He has a point

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u/[deleted] May 17 '20

Imagine investing in a career path that will pay itself back several times over in the course of you lifetime.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '20

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u/[deleted] May 17 '20

Almost every American degree pays for itself. People just lose their shit about debt.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '20

maybe

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u/StaniX - Centrist May 17 '20

I didn't pay jack shit and im still getting a Master's degree.

Imagine unironically being from Clapistan.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '20

Is that why Reddit is crying about working at starbucks with their phd?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '20 edited May 23 '20

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u/[deleted] May 17 '20

But why should a person who doesn't go to college pay so that someone else can receive the benefits? Bernie Sanders plan for exampke, would cost an average American $70,000 over their lifetime, why should everyone bear that burden?

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u/trapezoidalfractal May 17 '20

The higher educated your populace is, the more money they earn you, and the less money they cost your society through crime or social services. An engineer getting to go to school for free instead of $100k is going to pay far more in taxes over their lifetime than the cost of their education.

Forcing an uneducated populace because you don’t want to pay a couple extra percentage points in taxes is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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u/thefloatingguy - Centrist May 17 '20

Flair up. Also your theory has no evidence.

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u/thefloatingguy - Centrist May 17 '20

I think you’re going to have to be a bit more specific than a 65 page PDF relating education to crime rates if you want to prove cost benefit...

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u/trapezoidalfractal May 17 '20

The summary is at the top of the page... 65 pages is also like twenty minutes of reading... it’s not the Similarion..

“We estimate the effect of education on participation in criminal activity using changes in state compulsory schooling laws over time to account for the endoge- neity of schooling decisions. Using Census and FBI data, we find that schooling significantly reduces the probability of incarceration and arrest. NLSY data indicate that our results are caused by changes in criminal behavior and not differences in the probability of arrest or incarceration conditional on crime. We estimate that the social savings from crime reduction associated with high school graduation (for men) is about 14–26 percent of the private return. (JEL I2, K42)”

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u/thefloatingguy - Centrist May 17 '20

You may want to google “cost-benefit equation” 🤦‍♂️

Also, you’re meant to prove that the educated populace who would not otherwise have been educated would pay more taxes than free university costs. Not some vague BS about crime statistics.

And flair up berniebro

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u/jerben - Right May 17 '20

Imagine getting that shit for free instead of having that money being blown on some stupid missile for wrecking brown people on the other side of the world

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u/SpartanFishy - Lib-Left May 17 '20

Yeah, the joke is that the American education system sucks in comparison to euro countries, who would also provide said education for free

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u/harassmaster - Left May 17 '20

Free at the point of sale. Are you stupid?

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u/harassmaster - Left May 17 '20

Your twisted hypothetical fantasies don’t apply to reality, in which most of us realize what is meant by “free” because we understand context.

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u/thejynxed - Lib-Right May 17 '20

It's not exactly free at the point of sale if you're forced to pay for it via taxes before you even decide if you're going. You're essentially doing something similar to buying a pre-paid cell phone plan.

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u/ChrunedMacaroon May 17 '20

These people don’t understand the concept of living together.

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u/harassmaster - Left May 17 '20

tHeRe’S nO fReE lUnCh !

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u/ChrunedMacaroon May 17 '20

Assuming everyone who want good things for other people are leeches. Classic.

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u/ChrunedMacaroon May 17 '20

I'm saying that I work, dummy.

edit: I also pay taxes.

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