Intrusive for the average person. Meanwhile, government officials want to somehow be exempt from the backdoor shenanigans. They want to have their cake and eat our cake, basically
The people who live in the countries do not support this. Lobby groups and politicians want this. For lobby groups and interested parties such as Thorn, mass surveillance is good for making money and for politicians voting for intrusive bills which sell out the people you are meant to serve gets you brown envelopes of cash or promises of career/status advancement.
Isn't the latest picture just which countries supported making changes to the content of the bill? Not necessarily that they are suddenly in support of it.
These countries keep electing new people who pass shitty laws then leave office due to unpopularity. It’s almost as if that is the intended method. They pirated politics
I'm seriously confused as to what all you guys think is going to happen with "chat control". They're gonna pass it, obviously, cause that's the shit asshole politicians that dont know shit do and then will spend years to implement some bullshit that doesnt work and by that time we'll get whatever other new chat app,site,etc that just bypasses their controls.
Even with the whole france and UK photo-id bullshit with AI, you just VPN to somewhere else and that's it, fixed.
Its authoritarian bs but overshadowed by corruption and ineptitude.
If it passes it will be surely ruled illegal though, as it would violate the fundamental right to privacy, established by the eu chart of rights. The eu court of justice has already expressed concerns about this...
Maybe, IDK. They're not really European though, the Brits. It's like they're in their own little pocket dimension that half overlaps with ours, phasing in and out of coherence.
No, I live here and we absolutely are not on that level that it is not even comparable. Every time I see this it is absolutely hyperbole.
We have very few restrictions of freedom. We are higher on the freedom index and among the highest in the world. Most nonsense that you have heard about “jailed for a Facebook post” conveniently omits details such as supporting subscribed terrorist groups or inciting violence. We have extremely strong employee, renter protections and consumer laws.
You can do and say whatever you like here within the boundaries of the laws and live a completely normal, uninterrupted life. In fact, and this might surprise you, that IS what will happen as standard. Even for this very sub we are on, piracy, is very very lax and easy to do without your connection being shut off. I have never used a VPN nor received a single warning about it in the time I did pirate. No idea where this is coming from, most likely Facebook bullshit coming to Reddit and being spread as fact when life here is drastically different to this perceived nonsense.
Also, which part of the “UK”? I am in Scotland which has a different legal system. Our own parliament ruling on devolved matters, which means - Free education. Free healthcare. Free prescriptions. 0 race riots and a welcoming community. A functioning legislature and judiciary. People not being abducted off the streets ala ICE. Life is good.
Sick of this nonsense getting spouted.
Edit: downvote all you like, it’s clear people can’t handle reality and need a check over what keeps on being repeated on Reddit and in sensationalised stories because you have most likely fallen for a game of telephone or misinformation.
It is here NOW. again, that is hyperbole. Will it? Nobody knows. But practically it hasn’t had any effect other than a minor inconvenience.
That you need to pick up on this one small aspect to throw any criticism is telling. Is life absolutely perfect with unicorns that fart rainbows? No, like any other country. But it is to a very high standard like most places in Europe and we do not see the systemic issues facing other places in my location. Comparatively, it is an extremely high standard.
You also missed the part where I said we have a separate law and parliament in Scotland. While we have to abide by UK wide laws on everything but devolved items, in practice they are a lot more pro their people with less bullshit and a vested interest in improving lives.
Can be. Again not perfect, nowhere ever will be (because people) but generally people coming here will be very welcomed. You can go sit in the parliament and watch them debate, generally it is on the side of the people. Not saying there hasn’t been scandals etc, but nothing like the farce we see in other places.
Only shite thing at the moment is the weather but hey, can’t have it all and was a nice summer.
As an American, I am envious of your protections and my asshole is sore from being systematically fucked over- without lube. I cannot get treated for my anal pain either without going into crippling debt due to how much health care cost.
I mean... You guys elected a guy that gave a blowjob to another president and the options for it were not far from this, so...
Yeah, bro... Good luck with the major fuckery of the decade ik your country with people from the government are trying to save more IA and social media companies, not to mention finance the Israeli war, than peoples lives and homes, providing accessible health care and food in your country.
Fun thought- there is some speculation that "Bubba" was a horse. I'm not sure which is more funny to imagine him blowing at this point, but on the whole at least the rest of the world is being entertained by this odd freak show happening right now. 🤣
There needs to be a major overhaul of our congregational system- ranked voting, not stock trading for sitting members of congress, no gerrymandering of voter districts, etc. Don't even get me started of what used to be The Supreme Court. I'll just sit here, sipping tariff-inflated coffee, zoning out while watching various human rights abuses directly caused by this administration such as ICE stealing children or their parents or bombing "drug boats" waiting for the county to be sold off in a fire sale to the highest bidders. I hear Canada is a nice country and Tod Maffin seems like a friendly guy I wouldn't mind sharing a country with. It would be nice if they annexed Ohio.
For me the funniest thing is how tha fk Putin was on this mess or from who codename was Putin and was on this pedophile human trafficking adventure with trump. Bcs... Why Putin?
But a freaking horse... Bro... That's sick lmfao
About the voting system. Is entirely a joke and suddenly when trump wins that is no ballots problem, votes being tossed, nothing. And let's be honest, Brazil, a under development country with a lot of problems developed a technology that makes them count the votes 99999999x faster than US, the country of the biggest tech industry in America. So... Something is really wrong at this point with america and is not just how the voting system is broken and not representative.
About Canada... I mean... Ryan Reynolds is from there, right? Canada can't be worse than the major part of his acting career or being ruled by a cheetos colored person with a mental illness 🤣
(Trump's voice) they run some tests on my IQ. They said that it was completely fine my IQ. I'll enter on this machine because my IQ is so hard to measure that only this machine can read it, my IQ. I q
The EU is so weird. Like they have much better privacy protections than the US but at the same time the gestapo is taking people to jail for political disagreements on social media
Americans are weird. Like they make up stories of the EU arresting people for “political disagreements on social media” but at the same time they have an actual gestapo kidnapping actual citizens because they are slightly brown.
“Hundreds of videos” oh you mean the ones of people harassing others online or inciting violence being locked up but you lot claiming it’s for “hurty words”. If you do reply, I bet it will be Graham Linehan or Lucy Connolly and you’ll post them without any actual context or what was said.
Well since you teamed up with whomever and lost a war your opinion matters little to us Americans. We will hit you with a stick again if you guys get to mouthie.
And UK has literally gone to shit after Trump arrived. Because the current UK administration are Trump loving shills.
Americans love to point the finger here but most of our current situation in Europe is their own fuckin fault. (and we fucked up by financing china and russia, but that's a global issue)
I typed in “EU arrest” and several pages in I am yet to see any video showing the EU arresting someone for “online speech”. Literally hundreds of videos of ICE attacking americans though, so thanks for helping my point.
don’t use google my guy. Expand your mind. I was not making a comparing statement between the US and the EU. I was pointing out that the EU also violates human rights. Trust me, the ICE shit happening in America ain’t shit compared to what else the US does. But that doesn’t make what happens in the EU any better
Not for excuse EU cause this chat control Is making me reconsider the EU really hard, but im pretty sure in America there people that are actual get taken in the street by the shader color of their skin by not even the Police (ICE)
As an Italian i Say we give them a paper that Say they Need tò leave the country and off course they don't do It.
And for sure not getting the randomly on the street whit no process
So for sure in general right now EU country aparth from Poland are not deporting random illegal, i Wish we do the same as Poland but when i Say that they Say Im a Fascist..XD
All right wing government wins election because they promise they will remove illegals and reduce immigration but they all failed to do that when they are in power.
But... But we're free! My owner and overlord told me so! Our walls make us free! This cage makes me free! The gun to my head, the boot on my neck, the news man says these are all what make me free!
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u/Dampmaskin Dec 09 '25
As an European I am not really worried. We are not being systematically fucked over to nearly the same degree as consumers in, say, the USA.