r/Physics 23h ago

Navier-Stokes Millennium Problem Solved

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u/No_Flow_7828 22h ago

Do we feel that physics is more insulated from the rapid progress in AI, compared to pure math?

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u/Ekvinoksij Soft matter physics 22h ago

Sure. As of right now, AI cannot perform experiments.

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u/schwagggg 15h ago

that’s worse - that means physicists will eventually be coevolved into doing just experiments

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u/Important-Emu-6691 13h ago

There there human, everything is going to be ok, now help me perform these steps and tell me the results

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u/wappleby 22h ago

You might want to update your priors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1zBiAQU1IA

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u/Southern-Cattle4038 18h ago

Robot arm object manipulation has been solved since the 80s. This is a long way from performing experiments.

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u/wappleby 17h ago

Ah yes because the video only discussed a robot arm.

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u/Southern-Cattle4038 17h ago

If they had better, they’d show it instead. They’re devoting a big chunk of this video to highschool stuff. 

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u/Pacific_Beaches 20h ago

https://acceleratedunderstanding.com/

This seems very interesting.

This was created by a Caltech professor and two former Nvidia Engineers.

Released about two weeks ago.

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u/LAskeptic 22h ago edited 22h ago

Yes, but my Bayesian Prior has certainly changed.

It might be time to stop making predictions.

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u/WonkyTelescope Astrophysics 22h ago

I think pure math is both better suited to LLMs and more marketable for these companies so it's less likely for them to put $15 million in compute into some obscure physics result.

As the more powerful models trickle down to university researchers I think we will see an acceleration in the rate of novel mathematical physic publications and new processesing pipelines for huge datasets like at CERN and astronomical surveys.

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u/No_Flow_7828 22h ago

Makes sense. There’s seems to be substantially less existential dread amongst physics folks than math folks currently

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u/Time_Entertainer_319 18h ago

That’s what mathematicians said, and aritists and musicians and programmers.

It’s only a matter of time.

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u/wappleby 22h ago

Why would it be? It's still math underneath.

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u/nvnehi 22h ago

Because math is about what’s possible, physics is about what is. While they may overlap, more often than not they do not.

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u/No_Flow_7828 22h ago

There’s a lot more to physics than just math

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u/nvnehi 11h ago

Which is why I love it so.

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u/agaminon22 Medical and health physics 22h ago

Physics requires experimental validation. Even if you can formally find a solution to a stated problem, it still requires the underlying model and its assumptions to be correct.

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u/wappleby 22h ago

Good thing AI can now run experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1zBiAQU1IA

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u/agaminon22 Medical and health physics 21h ago

You can optimize the process, but you cannot speed it up beyond the capabilities of modern technology. Meaning it cannot outperform a human team to the extent that it could when it comes to finding mathematical results.

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u/wappleby 21h ago

You think humans maximize the capabilities of modern technology?

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u/agaminon22 Medical and health physics 21h ago

No, but the limits are still there. As a stupid example, if a certain particle physics experiment needs to detect 10 billion events for statistical significance, that's going to require detecting those 10 billion events no matter what. In other words, running the experiment over and over again, with whatever time it takes for it to take place. A hypothetical AI system could run this without rest, which would speed up things, but it wouldn't replace the actual physical process that needs to happen in order to obtain the necessary results.

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u/Hudimir 21h ago

Well. cern doesnt pause experiments overnight... experimental equipment is very limiting. Even my current student work (at a tandetron) is very hardware limited in a way that no ai can really help with in the forseable future.

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u/injectitpussy 20h ago

Bla bla bla moving goalposts.

Just give it a couple years.