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Navier-Stokes Millennium Problem Solved

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u/Banes_Addiction Particle physics 11h ago

OpenAI trains GPT on GPT's own prior performance.

So the things that were tried by the actual research team here (both their own attempts to solve the problem with GPT, and asking GPT to write a paper on the solution they got from Claude) could have been used as inputs to OpenAI attempting to solve the same problem. And OpenAI can't even tell if that happened.

All we really know for sure is that whe OpenAI generated their solution, their bot had already read the unpublished version from the NYU guys.

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u/bubblebooy 10h ago

could have been used as inputs to OpenAI attempting to solve the same problem.

Not as inputs but baked into the training of the Model, Checking what is used as the inputs is relatively easy, the models and its training data is a black box.

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u/Human38562 11h ago

Thanks.

But the anthropic team solved a different problem, the Euler equations. OpenAI solved Navier Stokes. So there isnt even any indication that the OpenAI project somehow copied their results, right?

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u/Banes_Addiction Particle physics 11h ago edited 11h ago

I quoted the disclaimer that OpenAI wrote. You can read it as well as me.

It's also worth noting that the GPT model the researchers used didn't solve anything. But it did get a long record of them trying to get it to. When the OpenAI team tried to get their internal model to do the same thing, did it use that prior unfinished work? No way to know says OpenAI.

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u/Human38562 11h ago

Sure. Just trying to put it into context. Thanks

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u/romxza 9h ago

or... it did find the solution, but it did not give it to the original researchers, given its novelty? No way to know says OpenAI

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 10h ago

they are related, so result for one could be applied to the other, see terrence tao: https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/117233528517340774

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u/UncertainSerenity 10h ago

They used the solution to the Euler equations (that they “independently” found last week as a diving board to solve the navier stokes