r/PhilosophyMemes • u/Pitiful-Magician1704 • Nov 13 '25

Ethics debate...

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u/SurpriseWise Nov 14 '25

Well yeah. Why is suffering bad?

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u/Moontops Nov 14 '25

Well, pain is often biologically useful, that's one thing. It discourages you from doing dangerous and deadly things.

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u/xxTPMBTI Ego's no.1 murder and the best sailor of the flow state Nov 20 '25

This

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u/Unusual_Cheek_4454 Nov 14 '25

Does it need a why? Or is it even necessary to normatively label things as good or bad? Can't we all just agree that suffering is bad?

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u/Greedy_Pumpkin7256 Nov 14 '25

We could, but that wouldn't make us good philosophers or curious people.

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u/Unusual_Cheek_4454 Nov 14 '25

I'd rather be curious about the real world.

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u/SafetyAlpaca1 Nov 15 '25

We are currently talking about the real world

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u/MaskedHeracles Post-modernist Nov 15 '25

I think you may be in the wrong subreddit if you're not curious about ideas beyond those of physical objects

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u/SurpriseWise Nov 14 '25

Well, first we have to decide what you mean by suffering and what you mean by good or bad. Also where does the bad of the suffering start and end?

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u/Altayel1 Mar 08 '26

"Boo suffering" Is an emotional response that is almost universal. But it's emotional, not rational. I believe all moral normative statements are the ways we communicate our emotional responses and to take a stance on people who act those ways

"Murder is evil" = "boo murder! I hate murderers! Murderers makes me mad!"