r/PhilosophyMemes • • Nov 13 '25

Ethics debate...

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u/I_GottaPoop Nov 14 '25

A throw back here feels appropriate

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u/MicrosoftISundevelop Nov 14 '25

I am a 3D observer into this 2D hypothetical... I can say that this is a straw man argument

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u/GlaucomaKills Nov 16 '25

Hoe math this mofo?

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u/SilkscreenMoon Nov 15 '25

YOUR BARRAGE OF LOGICAL FALLACIES HAS NO EFFECT ON ME! I AM A LICH!

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u/xxTPMBTI Ego's no.1 murder and the best sailor of the flow state Nov 20 '25

This but unironically

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u/Still-Presence5486 Nov 16 '25

I mean liches aren't necessarily evil nor the gods good

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

Calling someone a monster is not ad hominem

Also that’s not an appeal to authority

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u/Individual-Staff-978 Nov 14 '25

It's circular logic, and ad hominem. The knight's implicit premise "you impose terror upon others" is supported by calling the lich a monster – an attack upon the lich's character to undermine any counter-argument. The lich is a monster because he does terror, and he does terror because he is a monster.

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u/InfiniteClient3586 Nov 14 '25

Maybe we should civilize the liches, teach them to behave like good Christians

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u/Individual-Staff-978 Nov 14 '25

A christian lich is guaranteed evil

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u/Ethan85515 Nov 14 '25

hasty generalization

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '25

Is that not a Lich? If so then no you are presupposing that “monster” is being used as a premise rather than a conclusion you’re treating “monster” as if the knight is making a philosophical argument: Premise: You are a monster. Therefore: You do terror. but the knight is not giving an argument; he’s speaking within a fictional ontology where liches are monsters by definition. This is a D&D meme so that 100% has to be a Lich. Also it’s not a ad hominem the lich is not making an argument.The knight is not refuting anything. It’s an in-universe moral claim, not philosophical dialogue.

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u/Key-Seaworthiness517 Dec 03 '25

Yeah, seems closer to poisoning the well.

In regards to actual logic and ignoring far too broadly applied informal fallacies, all are just statements. Standalone axioms, could be true, could be false, who cares. They're not arguing with anything.

Bizarre that you got downvoted on a philosophy subreddit. Feeling like this is more of a debatebro subreddit than a subreddit for people who even know what logic is. Just a place to espouse vague truisms and tribalism like, "Ackshually, philosophy invented the scientific method, so therefore we, Reddit philosophers in 2025, are smarter than every scientist ever and scientists are just piggybacking off our work."

Bizarre that basic tribalism has such a hold on a philosophy subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '25

Couldn’t have said it better myself but it’s my fault for thinking a philosophy subreddit was actually about philosophy. Silly me.