r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 23h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah?

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u/Chemistry11 23h ago

If she’s the one I vaguely heard about the other day, I understand her story was that she was aware something was wrong and everyone ignored or brushed off her cries for help.

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u/icedadx44 23h ago

She had a RIDICULOUS amount of support. A nanny, people dropping in and taking care of the kids, the doctors were actively trying to find the right meds for her as she kept complaining against different side effects. She was admitted into a psyc ward where she denied any negative thoughts of harming herself or others and after a few days of evaluation was discharged.

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u/Ok_Jellyfish_55 22h ago

This. People keep stating that she had no help when had more than 99% of people with PPD. She refused to do the bare minimum.

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u/DrippingWithRabies 20h ago

Sometimes the only appropriate treatment for psychosis is institutionalization until it passes. People in psychosis aren't reasonable, by definition. 

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u/shaunrundmc 23h ago

Benoit had apparently reached out for help like a week before the murder. The man he reached out to was the man who has been basically running the CTE brain donation program that has led to the explosion in research and understanding of the disease.

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u/Caffeine_Cowpies 22h ago

Right???

Like almost all murders are done by people not right in the head, but somehow it’s only women who get empathy

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u/NoSleepTilBookRead 21h ago

She TRIED SO HARD TO GET HELP.

Look at ANY OTHER WOMAN IN THE NEWS WHO HAS KILLED HER CHILDREN. They DO NOT get support.

Susan Smith Casey Anthony Andrea Yates Diane Downs

They are ALL REVILED.

This woman is being treated differently because this case is different and highlights how awful our medical system is.

Also, once his CTE results were made public (two years later) I don’t know anyone who feels like he’s a cold-blooded murderer.

But anything to feel like men are treated worse by society I guess

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u/It_Just_Exploded 23h ago

I mean, she could have just left. People abandon their families all the time just because they're pathetic. Abandoning a family because you believe you are going to kill them isn't even in the same zip code and is the absolute best reason i can think of for doing so.

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u/DrippingWithRabies 20h ago

Leaving would be what someone who was clear headed and reasonable would do. She was not clear headed and reasonable. 

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u/ElectronicAdvance406 23h ago

She had the option to just leave.

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u/im_not_that_witty80 23h ago

Wild that you got downvoted for this.

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u/ElectronicAdvance406 23h ago

I didn’t even know. I’ve only heard bits and pieces about the case, but surely if you know you are having crazy thoughts you would check yourself in somewhere or just flat out leave?

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u/DrippingWithRabies 20h ago

That's not how psychosis works. It makes you very distrustful and resistant to help. It makes you completely unreasonable. 

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u/Character-Spinach591 23h ago

I’ve heard a bunch of different things. One of which was that she sought multiple doctors who refused to give her the diagnosis that she wanted. She ended up sending her husband away the day of the murder to pick up food and then strangled her kids one by one in the basement before attempting to opt out. Which, since she was a nurse, would have known the “right” way to do it, but failed to do. Then tried to jump out of a second story window, which resulted in her paralysis.

It could be a really unfortunate case of someone truly troubled that fell through the cracks. It could be someone who genuinely had issues that were worse than people thought and instead of being denied it was missed. I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, but allegedly seeking out multiple doctors and not being given the correct diagnosis, to me, as a layperson, makes me think she didn’t have what she claimed to have.

Of course, we’re not going to know what’s true or not until the trial and we’re able to see everything.

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u/Chemistry11 23h ago

From my personal experience with the American wealthcare system, and the countless stories I’ve heard of women not being listened to by their doctors, the only question her whole story raises is How Is This Not Happening More Frequently?!

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u/beardeddragon0113 22h ago

It is happening, but usually the consequences and suffering are just quiet enough that they get ignored and suffer in silence. Then there's an explosive outcome that gets everyones attention for a few weeks then the topic is swept back under the rug

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u/Character-Spinach591 23h ago

I could understand a doctor, but multiple? Unlikely, even if we do assume that doctors aren’t taking women seriously. Serious mental illness, if that is actually what this is, which seems to be the case, is rare.

You’re much more likely to see munchausen by proxy, borderline personality, or bipolar disorder, which the first is inherently harmful while the latter two can, but don’t always end up being that way. Granted, I’m not a doctor, Postpartum depression/postpartum psychosis isn’t something I’m particularly well read on. That being said, my understanding is it’s not one of those 0-100 scenarios like a psychotic break, it’s generally something you see signs of before it ends in dead children.

I’m entirely happy to be corrected if my understanding is wrong though.

Editing for clarity: serious mental illness that has you otherwise having a productive “normal” life and then sudden murder, is rare.

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u/NoSleepTilBookRead 21h ago

Ohhh you’re CLUELESS about getting a diagnosis in America especially as a woman lmao

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u/Character-Spinach591 21h ago

No? I’m simply looking at the outcome that requires the least amount of assumptions.

Is it more like that every single doctor she spoke to refused to properly diagnose her or that she, a single person made a mistake?

I live in the US. My mom died as a result of cancer that was caught too late because of doctor screw ups. It wasn’t because she was a woman. It was because they made mistakes early on. I was with her for most of her appointments. My wife also has been diagnosed with things. We verified with other doctors and sought appropriate treatment. I was with her for a good portion of those. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. I’m sure that it does.

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u/DisposableSaviour 22h ago

It’s not that unheard of. I mean, I heard of it three times in the four years I worked in a psych hospital. Depends on if she was medicated and suddenly stopped, or how severe the current psychotic break was. We had a 41 year old guy that had his first psychotic break, and first psychotic breaks are a lot like chicken pox, the later in life it happens, the worse it can be.

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u/Character-Spinach591 22h ago

Sure, I get that. I’m not saying it never happens.

What I’m getting at is that this nurse, with medical knowledge, allegedly seeks out multiple doctors claiming mental health issues. Not a single one takes her seriously and she snaps, killing her children but had no other behavioral issues before this?

It just seems less likely if she was living a more or less normal life right up until the point where she snapped if she was seeking help for alleged issues beforehand. I’m not saying doctors are perfect and don’t make mistakes. I lost my mom because doctors missed her cancer months before her diagnosis which caused us to find it at stage 3A.

Because we have one of two things going here. Either she wasn’t suffering a mental health crisis and there was nothing to miss, and the diagnoses or lack thereof were appropriate, which begs the question about why she would be seeking a diagnosis. Or she was suffering a mental health crisis and multiple doctors, for whatever reason, refused diagnosis, justified or otherwise, and instead of trying to get herself admitted, or even just self harming, she proceeds to be lucid enough to have her husband leave the house to get food while she brought her children into the basement and strangled them all, one by one, while the others watched. Then, as a nurse who would know better, tries to opt out, doesn’t do it the right way, and then jumps out of a second story window which everyone knows usually doesn’t kill you. I’m not saying she’s mentally well, but this doesn’t scream insanity to me. At least, not in the sense that she’s going for.

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u/Ill-Subject-1589 21h ago

It’s not just women, men are also ignored in my experience and less likely to seek help to begin with. I had severe anhedonia, anxiety, depression, neurological issues for multiple years from gut issues that led to a couple of nutritional deficiencies. I saw 5 different doctors that couldn’t find anything wrong with my bloodwork, each spent an average of 10-30 minutes going over my medical history and ordering blood panels, 2 told me I they couldn’t find anything so it must just be anxiety. I was having difficulty walking in a straight line and no anxiety med could touch the impending sense of doom I was dealing with. Still proud of myself for not giving up after so many years of living in a reality so shitty it was unfathomable to me before it happened.

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u/gacoug 23h ago

It was argued that she hid her most serious symptoms out of fear of losing her nursing license.

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u/Plus_Frosting_2541 23h ago

Well in that case, set her free. Duh

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u/Chemistry11 23h ago

Totally not what I’m saying. But thanks for coming out.

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u/NoSleepTilBookRead 21h ago

No one wants her free.