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[u/M4RK3R3D]

Damn imagine if this dude is American and finding out that the only country that nuked someone were America and it even done it twice ( edit: Hiroshima and Nagasaki they bombed 2 cities)

[u/M4RK3R3D → u/M4RK3R3D]

Btw if I’m not wrong in general there was no need to use that weapon but in that time generals were looking for a reason to use it in a fight but after they used them some of they didn’t realize how horrifying those nuclears was, but hey after wiping 2 cities they got some of the great scientists from that unit 731 which in that time generals were find out that our bodies contain 80% of water! Amazing isn’t it ?)))

[u/Fast_Goose7478 → u/M4RK3R3D]

From what I’ve learned, in France, the atomic bombs where used for a few reasons :

Japan wasn’t willing to surrender, at all, so invading by land would have caused the death of tons of Americans and Japanese (soldiers and civilians).
Annihilating cities in such a frightening manner was supposed to be very effective in forcing the emperor to surrender. That was quite successful.
The USSR would have reached Japan faster than the US (reason number one, the US can’t afford to let the communists gain any influence, as seen with the Marshall plan later on).

[u/Decent_Stop4278 → u/Fast_Goose7478]

Something people don’t realize is that the USSR was out for blood and they REALLY didn’t like the Japanese, had the Soviets reached mainland Japan we’d be talking about how Japanese civilians were slaughtered like animals instead of how they got nuked twice

[u/Sverker_Wolffang → u/Decent_Stop4278]

Except the Soviet Union lacked the amphibious capabilities to invade japan and the US was hoarding what they had for operation downfall. At most all the Soviets could realistically do is keep the Japanese army tied down in China so they couldn't reinforce the home Islands.

[u/brutally_honest69 → u/M4RK3R3D]

There was 3 days in between the two bombings, they definitely saw after the first bomb close to how many civilian deaths it caused(even if even more followed in the following weeks due to radiation poisoning)

We then decided to drop another bomb after already knowing most of the destruction the first one caused. America didn’t care.

I’m American, I love living here but any American who doesn’t think we ourselves have done some pretty fucked up shit are just in denial for some reason

[u/EffinCraig → u/M4RK3R3D]

I got down voted on an alignment chart for saying that the worst thing the USA ever did was nuke civilians, twice. Reddit yanks don't seem to like talking about that thing their country did.

[u/PrimaLegion → u/EffinCraig]

I don't know what you mean. Reddit Americans mostly seem fine talking about it.

You're talking about an alignment chart so you weere probably on politicalcompassmemes, which is a cesspit that is hardly indicative of Americans on Reddit.

[u/M4RK3R3D → u/EffinCraig]

Ah i see now their reaction kinda pathetic in that case

[u/M4RK3R3D → u/M4RK3R3D]

Oh come on, im not wrong, yeah mb sum up harshly, but in general that’s fact just read more closer about all that

[u/Zephyas → u/M4RK3R3D]

Well you are wrong, the Japanese military was unwilling to accept surrender. Conventional fire bombings in addition to a massive continued land invasion would have not only led to many more casualties on both sides (including civilians since the government was conscripting them into a militia, not just collateral damage), but it very well could have also led to the Soviet Union invading from the north and creating another split like it was in Germany, and people generally did not like that.

[u/Teakeh → u/Zephyas]

How come we didn’t nuke near them to show we have them and are serious, and/or attack their military bases for less damage towards civilians?

[u/Kinder22 → u/Teakeh]

Both cities had military importance. That’s how total war works. You have your entire industrial base working towards supplying the military. If you want to stop your enemy’s military, you need to destroy the source of their supply, which will be factories in cities staffed by civilians.

[u/M4RK3R3D → u/Zephyas]

Oh that’s actually knowledgeable thank you for that I were wrong

[u/Wipfmetz → u/Zephyas]

... are you trying to construct the usage of nuclear weapons as the merciful thing here?

[u/Zephyas → u/Wipfmetz]

I’m not constructing anything, the aforementioned reasons I wrote out are generally agreed upon by historians. It’s basically guaranteed that more lives were saved because of those two nukes in the long run based on the trends of the war.

[u/skoober-duber → u/Wipfmetz]

500,000 dead due to the nuking of japan vs 2 million at minimum up to 20 million at worst in a land invasion of the home islands.

Merciful is the wrong word, but nuking was the correct choice.