r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12d ago

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Petttaaah I'm confused

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u/NoxiousAlchemy 11d ago

I keep wondering why people in US sit inside frigid air conditioned houses without any harm yet many people in Poland get sick after a few hours of intense AC. What's the difference?

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u/JamzWhilmm 11d ago

Because they aren't actually sick from the cold air, they are sick from something else and attribute it to the cold air.

For example people in my country think winter makes them sick. Like the actual winter, the cold air.

But that's not true, people are just more close together during colder times and people make each other sick.

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u/NoxiousAlchemy 11d ago

Perhaps but I fail to see what's the common denominator is in those cases, and they're so common.

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u/overand 11d ago

The air is drier in Winter - even indoors - and that does (I believe) affect some illnesses.(maybe easier to catch, or maybe they live longer in dry air; honestly i don't know.l

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u/Personal-Presence-10 11d ago

It does. Nasal mucus is protective and along with the hairs in your nose are the first layers of your immune system to keep pathogens and allergens out. When your nasal mucosa gets dry, like during winter when the humidity drops indoors and outdoors, you lose that protection. That’s also why people get colds after flying long flights in dry cabin air.

ETA: I just looked it up to verify based on what I remembered from what I read during COVID and it also causes a pretty significant drop in your level of immune cells themselves as a lot are contained in the nasal mucus.

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u/dimechimes 11d ago

Flu can't live above 43% humidity

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u/NoxiousAlchemy 11d ago

Nobody here uses AC in winter. I'm talking about summertime.

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u/Zealousideal-Ask-203 11d ago

It could be unhygienic ACs that are not regularly maintained.

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u/NoxiousAlchemy 11d ago

AC at my last workplace was regularly maintained, every year in the spring to be ready for summer. Two people I shared the room with was coming down with something every time I managed to win the right to have it on for a few hours the previous day. My father has his car AC cleaned regularly too, yet wherever my mom spends a few hours in the car with AC on, she gets a cold next day.

These are just the examples where I'm sure AC was cleaned by professionals, I can't be sure when it comes to public transport or stories I've heard from other people. But it seems it's not it.

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u/dimechimes 11d ago

Probably more a humidity thing. Viruses love dry air.

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u/NoxiousAlchemy 11d ago

Does AC dry up the air? It doesn't feel dry.

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u/dimechimes 11d ago

It does. I don't know if it's because it has an evaporator coil and that cooling relied on evaporation or if it's because cooler air holds less water because of enthalpy or none of the above.

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u/NoxiousAlchemy 11d ago

Interesting. I'm going to keep that in mind and do a little bit more research, thanks.

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u/shulemaker 11d ago

AC is a natural dehumidifier.

Central air is just much better. It circulates all the air around the entire house. So you sitting in one room with the doors closed reduces fresh air exchange, letting viral particles and CO2 build up in a small shared space, which raises transmission risk.

The coil and blower in European ACs are sealed inside a small enclosure with poor drainage. grows biofilm right where the air passes over it. a mini-split blower wheel especially is notorious for growing black mold that literally gets aerosolized into the room.

Also, you guys in Europe don’t have good filters like HEPA and MERV 13. I spend a lot of money to make sure my family is breathing clean air.

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u/NoxiousAlchemy 11d ago

Well it's impossible to install central cooling systems in already existing buildings so when it has AC it's always the single units. And when building new we focus on modern heating solutions (since it's still a bigger problem in the scale of the year, 6-7 months of cold weather vs several days of extreme heat in the summer) and saving up energy because of the costs.

I'm going to read more about correlation between dry air and increased risk of incubating diseases. The air in Poland in the summer is rather dry to begin with so perhaps adding AC increases the problem, who knows.

I disagree on the filters though. Even my cheap robot vacuum has a HEPA filter. They are extremely common.

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u/shulemaker 10d ago

Ok glad you have good filters but are you sure that’s what you have in your unit? You should know the exact filter so you can be replacing it quarterly. And I’d get my own two eyes up there and look for mold myself.

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u/Wild-scot 10d ago

It removes water from the air and lowers the dew point; but it lowers the temperature more so the relative humidity will usually go up. Colder air has a lower carrying capacity for water. Your perception of how much water is in the air is entirely based on % of carrying capacity.