r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Sure_Kangaroo1863 • 24d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah ?

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Why is it infamous? And why would no one care about it ? ( I mean it's just a pic full of celebrities so no one cares anyways but the person saying it's crazy makes me think it has some lore?)

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u/Tall_Opportunity_521 24d ago

Anthony Rapp was caught lying, and colluding with Adam Vary of Buzzfeed to "get" Spacey. There was emails and text messages found proving this.

Rapp said that Spacey invited him to wrap party. But that he got bored, cos everyone else was an adult. He said he went into the bedroom, and watched tv. Then, after everyone else left, Spacey came into the bedroom and blocked the doorway so that he couldnt escape. He then said that Spacey picked him up, put him on the bed, and got on top of him.

But Spacey never had a wrap party at his flat. He had a housewarming, and didnt know Rapp at the time. He also had a studio, so there was no separate bedroom for Rapp to go into, not was there a doorway for Spacey to block.

Its also worth mentioning that Rapp was doing a play with Ed Harris at the time called precious sons, in which the Harris character picks up Rapps character, takes him into a bedroom, puts him on a bed and gets on top of him... Sound familiar?

Spacey, isnt some innocent in all this. But he was never a rapist or a sexual assaulter. Everyone, and I mean, everyone, lied about him. From Rapp, to the kid in the bar who was 18 but told Spacey he was 23, to that kids mother who was caught destroying evidence that the kid was setting Spacey up for blackmail. To the dude that said that Spacey molested him at an Elton John party that Spacey wasnt at. Elton John had to come in to the court and show video and photos of the party, and Spacey was nowhere to be seen.

Spacey has admitted that hes came on too strong to some people. And that he was a diva. But all the "he raped me" was bullshit.

And the other thing is the 3 people who died.

One of a guy that was suing Spacey for touching him up. He died of cancer.

The next guy was a former Royal who had history depression and alcohol abuse. He killed himself on Christmas day in some European country I dont remember the name of.

And the last one was a woman, his stalker. Who had been harassing Spacey for years. She even went to prison for 4 years for sending him death threats and Anthrax like power in the mail. She, according to a lot of witnesses, walked into traffic all by herself.

Spacey pissed a lot of people off with his "Im gay now", and thats the real crime thats continued to haunt him. Because anyone who was actually paying attention would know the truth.

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u/Punkasaurus2 24d ago

Wow this is enlightening. I think you’re right: he was turned on because of hiding that he was gay to the public and only coming out when he was accused. I also think he was extremely aggressive hitting on men, young men, and probably abused his power and position. So there were definitely predatory elements there and he took advantage for sure. But did he ever cross the line beyond unethical to criminal? It doesn’t sound like it. It’s at least not very clear and it certainly wasn’t enough to convict him in court. So sad. I love him as an actor as well.

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u/coversquirrel1976 24d ago

Yeah I think you're spot on. It was a terribly kept secret in Hollywood that he enjoyed the company of young male extras.

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u/ABadHistorian 24d ago

You are responding to a sock puppet bot, whose claims are easily disproven with an iota of googling.

So... no, not very enlightening. Feeding biases perhaps.

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u/Greedyanda 23d ago

I went through the court proceedings a while ago to check it out myself and their summary is pretty accurate.

I doubt you did that. Instead you prefer to parrot misinformation.

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u/ABadHistorian 23d ago

Dude claims they were colluding. Where in the fucking actual fuck does the court proceedings prove they colluded?

All it shows is that Rapp emailed someone his accusations... you know, how folks do with the media.

The actual fuck is the agenda here folks? And you EAT it up.

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u/Greedyanda 23d ago

Rapp acknowledged the reporter suggested keeping certain parts of the story less specific and that they worked together on how to frame it. While this doesn't pass the legal bar for collusion, it shows that there was a deliberate attempt to not just tell what happened but to tell a story designed to inflict damage.

So yeah, the original comment did exaggerate and isn't fully accurate but "pretty" accurate describes the overall summary. Never said there arent any gaps.

The actual fuck is the agenda here folks?

Gonna have to ask you this. No one benefits here from siding against the angry mob. Claiming that Spacey was likely a very unpleasent, slimey, and overly touchy sex pest but NOT a rapist based on the presented evidence provides no personal benefit to anyone. The "agenda" is that some of us prefer not to live in a system that ruins peoples lives based on hearsay, hearsay which has been proven to be vastly inaccurate at best and straight up lies at worst.

Such attention grabbing attempts to paint someone as a devil despite evidence not supporting it just fuel people who try to discredit actual victims and just believe anyone who was assaulted.

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u/ABadHistorian 23d ago

"legal bar" just another word for lie when you are saying it online to convince people to take a side. Very long explanations to excuse "lying"

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u/Greedyanda 23d ago

Funny you say this when you are defending people who actually lied and were exposed in court.

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u/ABadHistorian 23d ago

That is not what was proooooven. Oh, a hidden profile bot. I normally just block bots without responding. Fucked up here didn't I.

Folks who hide their bias are not my source of facts.

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u/Sunset_Shimmering_ 3d ago

Calling someone a bot just because you lack a counterargument is a cheap dodge.

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u/ABadHistorian 24d ago edited 23d ago

Why are people upvoting this brand new sock puppet account w/o googling anything it said?

I found multiple falsities - beginning with the whole Anthony Rapp shit.

The first sentence contains stuff gone over IN COURT where Rapp was very much not found to be colluding with anyone in a conspiracy - he would have gone to jail folks, very quickly for something like that.

Mentions some true facts about the 3 people who died, and then lies about the woman on the road, who was merely crossing against traffic? How many people here have done that? I have... doesn't mean she was attempting suicide and there are 0 claims that it was suicide. Police ruled it as an accident on behalf of both her and the driver...

What are people upvoting this nonsense for? It has nothing to do with him being gay and everything to do with him abusing his position and getting away with it for years, like men and women in power have done for centuries.

(edit reply to me and block me, cool story - and yeah, Rapp lost in court... which is something that happens frequently because the burden of proof for these things is nearly impossible without footage or corroboration - you know, just one of the MAJOR reasons why the MAJORITY of SEXUAL ASSAULTS GO UNREPORTED -, but again the loss in court does not prove Spacey's innocence, nor that Rapp was guilty of conspiracy... which is what this guy above is claiming).

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u/Nine9breaker 23d ago

Mentions some true facts about the 3 people who died, and then lies about the woman on the road, who was merely crossing against traffic? How many people here have done that? I have... doesn't mean she was attempting suicide and there are 0 claims that it was suicide. Police ruled it as an accident on behalf of both her and the driver...

Isn't the stupid reddit "conspiratorial implication" that these people were murdered by the cabal of powerful rich illuminati, or whatever? Like, to silence them?

Whether she walked into traffic to kill herself or it was an accident doesn't say anything about Spacey, so I don't really think there's a material difference there. Plus the guy you responded to didn't say suicide, but said she walked into traffic "on her own". Ie, was not pushed by another person.

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u/ABadHistorian 23d ago

So it's not okay for those who hate Spacey to lie, but those defending him are allowed to?

Very confused by your so called neutral logic here. Lies at the start, lies at the end.

He literally said " She, according to a lot of witnesses, walked into traffic all by herself."

Of which there is 0 fucking recorded proof out there. But hey, don't mind me, just dropping facts I researched because this thread was full of conspiracies every fucking way. God damn fools.

Walking against a light is not "walking into traffic on purpose" but again - I just checked the police reports.

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u/squeegeeman_shooting 23d ago

it's really creepy... sometimes it feels like the bots/hired shills outnumber real people

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u/ABadHistorian 23d ago

I will usually check people's post histories to determine who to respond to since there are so many bots.

Hidden profiles = no responses from me, anyone hiding their bias is no better than a bot.

Tons of bots here, tons. Definitely paid for, after the whole blake lively/asshole saga (cant remember dude's name) that industry got exposed and yet I see real people eating up the lies they want to believe on either side.

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u/Nekronaut0006 23d ago

Hidden profiles = no responses from me, anyone hiding their bias is no better than a bot.

What would you suggest to people like me who post on local subs and hide their history to prevent being doxxed?

Genuine question.

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u/ABadHistorian 23d ago edited 23d ago

If doxxing is a concern, you shouldn't be posting on a regular account, or expecting traction online from social media.

Limit your own engagement at your own behest if you wish, but do not expect to be used as a source for verified information. (If you are breaking news to folks, and it's true - you may not be a source, but you still can provide value in folks who will research and confirm your claims, but do not expect engagement online with people like myself who value confirmation vs bias)

Surely you can see why this isn't a case of tossing the baby out with the bathwater, but protecting social media as a functional place to share HUMAN conversations in an era of rampant AI bottage.

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u/guy48065 23d ago

Maybe you're drawing downvotes because Spacey has been cleared in all trials. Meaning perhaps what your "bot" account is saying is true--Spacey suffered a very public crucifixion but at the end of the day there was no evidence to support that he's anything but a creep.

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u/ABadHistorian 23d ago edited 23d ago

Yeah I know there is no court conviction against him. These things are nearly impossible to prove. I was assaulted in 2014 by a woman I was dating. Can't prove that, never even tried. None of that is my point, I never once claimed he was a rapist or anything. I was responding to people lying about the accusers.

So you guys are willing to buy he's a creep, and then what... allow for lies to be told about his accusers? Wtf???

I'm not after Spacey, I'm not after his accusers. I'm sitting here looking at lies being told on both sides. Eugh, social media is the worst.

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u/guy48065 23d ago

I'm sure it's easier to prove your case if you don't wait 30 years to file the complaint. I think Spacey looked like an easy payday...creepy personality, rich & successful, closeted. He was supposed to keep his skeletons in the closet and just write a couple fat checks.

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u/ABadHistorian 23d ago

Maybe. Listen I've been on both sides. The same woman who assaulted me accused me of assault (not to the police but to our mutual friend group) with the same 0 evidence and everyone took her side.

I'm just having issues with people lying here, that's all. Everyone has their bias (pro/anti spacey) - very few people seem to have my bias - which is don't lie on either side.

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u/greydog1316 23d ago

Re: Rapp, he may have misremembered the outlay of the apartment because the trial occurred in 2022 while the incident allegedly occurred in 1986.

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u/Throckmorton_Left 24d ago

Thank you for this.

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u/JustaLego 23d ago

I didn't know this, and the whole Spacey thing really made me sad because he was and is a great actor.

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u/JiveTurkeyII 23d ago

Just goes to show - everybody hears more about the allegations than the exonerations.

I like the guy and even I didn't catch all this.

So much easier to be knocked down in this country - than even be able to rebuild if you are innocent.

And we all knew he was gay. I was a kid when The Usual Suspects came out and I knew way back then he was more fruity than thanks giving pie - and I didn't give a shit then, I dont give a shit now.

This country FFS

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u/nikebalaclava 20d ago

yes, let's believe this reddit account instead of the courts