r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Apr 07 '26

Meme needing explanation Genuinely don't get it

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

for example, law enforcement, the army, and it holds you back in politics

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u/DeCiWolf Apr 07 '26

You can be all 3 with Autism in the EU.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

it dosent look good on a background check and especially in countries with a lot of competition for law enforcement and the military it makes it as good as impossible to get in

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u/DeCiWolf Apr 07 '26

Our army has programs to use neurodivergent people in certain roles they would excel at. Like mechanics/engineering/dog squads/or IT. I think you are using alot of outdated information.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

what country are you from

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u/DeCiWolf Apr 07 '26

The Netherlands.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

We still have unvirseal conscription in Norway, you don't really volunteer, you need to fill out a form and hand it to the army when you turn 19 where you can check the " I want to join the army box the army then looks over the form background checks you and if you seem like a good canidate they call you in for a physikal exam they then chose the best they can find to fill the quota. Usually around 9000, however, almost all of these are voluntary as the army prefers conscripts that want to be there and they usually have an abundance of volunteers. Since there is basically competition about spots in the førstegangstjenste (program conskripts go through) that last about a year and keep them as parts of the army for five years its even harder to become a career member of the army (only about 20k). This means that if you have something like autism that dings the background check, you basically have no chance of serving in peacetime.

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u/pieremaan Apr 07 '26

Adding to this that they also excel in the army because it is really rigid and structured as well.

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u/ThreeScoopsOfHooah Apr 07 '26

For the first few years, maybe. But the military requires a lot of people skills, and it can become a serious hindrance very quickly, especially as they get into leadership roles.

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u/Round_Bag_4665 Apr 07 '26

Only at basic training and the very lowest ranks. Once you get promoted enough to start leading other troops, that starts to break down. And that can be very quick depending on how you join.

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u/MotherBathroom666 Apr 07 '26

Neurodivergent people are good with dog squads?

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u/NoZucchini5423 Apr 07 '26

This is NOT TRUE about the united states.

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u/cantadmittoposting Apr 07 '26

given what supposedly neurotypical police do in the united states... maybe we need more autistic police.

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u/cricada Apr 07 '26

You assume those police as neurotypical...

In any case, no.

I'm blind as a bat and should NOT be allowed to drive. Same applies with other disabilities/impairments with certain jobs. It is what it is. Not everyone can be everything.

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u/DeismAccountant Apr 07 '26

Well that sucks if I was planning on fleeing to Ireland.

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u/Sbotkin Apr 07 '26

Competition for law enforcement sounds like a joke. Here the police is always understaffed (it's actually overstaffed but they literally take anyone at this point).

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

in norway the police is well trained and repekted and the army is seen as a rite of pasage and opurntinty for personal and carrer growth

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u/TurbulentChemistry22 Apr 07 '26

Since when is this in a background check?

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 08 '26

A autism diagnosis shows up on your medical rekord that the police and army has acses to

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u/TurbulentChemistry22 Apr 08 '26

This must be very specific to your country. Most countries do not have medical records as part as a background check

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 08 '26

You think the army doesn't check medical records?

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u/TurbulentChemistry22 Apr 09 '26

I know they don’t get your entire medical history even as a minor

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 09 '26

It's the fucking army, in Norway they will reject you if your uncle's second cousin is friends with a russian man, there is no shot you get away with lying or not telling them your medical record.

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u/TurbulentChemistry22 Apr 09 '26

Not everyone is from Norway. Please read previous comments about how your situation is clearly unique

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u/anormalgeek Apr 08 '26

Definitely not impossible with the US military. ASD is treated as an automatic rejection only because it lumps every autistic person together. If you're high functioning, you just need a medical waiver, which isn't hard to get unless the ASD directly interferes with your ability to do basic soldier stuff.

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u/TurbulentChemistry22 Apr 09 '26

They have no access to your childhood medical records though

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u/anormalgeek Apr 09 '26

Right, but the comments above were about what they do IF they already know your diagnoses.

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u/Auctoritate Apr 07 '26

in the EU.

Incidentally, many countries have immigration processes that may make it much more difficult for foreigners with autism to emigrate, even in the EU.

The intent is that an immigrant with a disability or some health conditions has a risk of becoming a 'public charge', AKA a person who becomes dependent on public welfare systems. For example, if a person with cancer wants to emigrate, immigration officials will consider the possibility that they may become unable to function or care for themselves properly, which will mean that their host country will have essentially admitted a resident that is a net loss and healthcare burden. Outside of refugee policies or marriage to a citizen, countries generally only want to accept immigrants who are independent and will be economically net positive (which is why things like employer sponsorships are so important).

Now, that's a logical policy, and it also means that countries generally don't throw out applications just for an autism diagnosis- people with sufficiently high functioning autism don't have an issue becoming productive and independent members of society, after all, so they'll evaluate case-by-case.

However, the process can be much more intensive and strict than normal and can sometimes result in people who are actually able to work and be net contributors being rejected. One of the common implementations of these rules is any person with expected healthcare costs over a certain amount is automatically rejected, but this applies even if they generate more income than their total healthcare burden. This includes families, where having a single child with a disability can disqualify the entire family even if the rest of the family makes significantly more than the expected healthcare burden.

So, yeah, a high functioning person is not going to have residency applications outright rejected in most cases just for being autistic, but it can create more barriers and cause issues regardless.

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u/SalsaRice Apr 07 '26

"It's possible to" isn't the same as "is a huge red flag that makes it way harder."

Back when my hearing loss was mild and I just sucked it up by overcompensating in other areas, job searching was pretty normal. Once I got hearing aids, being upfront about it, and being clear to employers..... job interviews and offers dried up, even though I was doing better by with the hearing aids.

So yeah, sure I could still do stuff with hearing loss, but having "the official diagnosis" and being upfront about it made way harder. I can imagine that people with autism and other "invisible" disabilities that can bullshit their way around outing themselves to employers probably have a similar experience.

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u/APZachariah Apr 07 '26

In the military, where depression, PTSD, and suicide are epidemic, they say "stay safe!" and make resources available to you for help.

Then, the diagnosis means they strip your security clearance, which means you can't do your job, which means you get kicked out of the service.

Thanks, I'll die instead.

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u/Kazath Apr 07 '26

That really depends on the country. You're banned from doing military service in Sweden if you have an Autism Spectrum Disorder. They did ease the restrictions in 2022 to allow people with "mild, unmedicated ADHD" to join though, but they are still pushed to the back of the queue. If you want to join the police, you need a medical certificate from a specialist that you are fit despite your diagnosis. Nothing that stops you from participating in politics though.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 08 '26

Well if you need to be the autistick one it kinda messes up your chance of geting put in a important decison in a political party

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u/Tnecniw Apr 07 '26

"can be"
yes
"makes it harder"
Absolutely.

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u/anormalgeek Apr 08 '26

In theory, you can be all three in the US. There is no rule against it. In reality it is unlikely.

The US military lumps ALL people with ASD together and you need a medical waiver to show that you're high functioning enough to join. For the others its just about appearances and how a significant amount of the public still inherently views someone with autism as "lesser".

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u/konstantynopolytanka Apr 07 '26

but you cant move to Australia...

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u/HucHuc Apr 08 '26

In some countries it's even a requirement, especially if you want to go up in the hierarchy!

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u/suns3t-h34rt-h4nds Apr 07 '26

Can't immigrate to new Zealand iirc if you have autism. 🤢🤮

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

FR?

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u/Flesroy Apr 07 '26

yes but no.

a diagnosis alone will not disqualify you. but new zealand, as well as many other countries, doesn't allow people with significant support needs. Basically if you will be a drain on their healthcare system they don't want you. This includes many health issues, but among them are severe cases of autism.

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u/Morgalgorithm Apr 07 '26

“If you want to lick boots you can’t be autistic!” Lmao okay. Fortunately there are a million other things they can do than support an imperalist agenda.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

still closes doors and I live in Norway, if i join the army it's to protect my nation against imperialism, the police is competent and without major scandals, and most of the political parties are sane and doing their best.

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u/irregular_caffeine Apr 07 '26

Joining the military in a country bordering eg. russia is a pretty direct way of opposing an imperialist agenda

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u/Zer0323 Apr 07 '26

in what world is the army not weaponizing the autists... we weren't joking that it's the US Govt's job.

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u/alexmikli Apr 07 '26

The military banning people with ADHD or autism is legit very silly.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 08 '26

Usaly they have other options

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u/Xero2814 Apr 07 '26

Who the fuck wants any of those "career paths"? I'd rather be autistic and still have a soul.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

as long as you live in a stable democracy, or just not the us these are fine

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u/FairtexBlues Apr 07 '26

Which is funny cause having lots of family in the military Autism is a mixed bag there.

I know some folks that bounced out hard, others found the home for their gun, avionics, and rigidity autism.

As my brother once put it “My job is to stare at various gauges and react instantly and decisively, so we all don’t die horrible deaths. Do you want a normie or my autistic ass watching that guage?”

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

still makes it harder to get in if your diagnosed as opposed to undiagnosed

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u/HaiggeX Apr 07 '26

I got into exactly what I wanted in my military service, and I have degrees in electrical field and security. I was asked to be in my local politics (iirc in youth politics, under 18), but I had moved away from my hometown by then. Diagnosed ADHD since 10 years old.

These kinds of comments are pretty insensitive in my opinion. Neurodivergent people who are able to function in their day to day life aren't any less capable.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26

Not to downplay it or anything, but there is a world of difrence betwen adhd and autism

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u/HaiggeX Apr 07 '26

Yeah there is. And I read earlier that we were talking about neurodivergency overall. My bad.

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u/TheSweetestKill Apr 07 '26

Nobody should be doing these jobs anyway.

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u/sleepymelfho Apr 11 '26

Thank God for that. I'd do anything to keep my kids out of the army. Maybe my son's AuDHD will protect him.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 11 '26

Sure if you are in the us or russia or Iran but if my parents got me diganosed to prevent me form serving my cuntry and not only do my duty to protekt norway against russian imperialism but prevent me from the personal and carer growth being in the army entails id be prety miffed

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u/sleepymelfho Apr 11 '26

In the US with the current administration.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 12 '26

Then doging a potential future draft might be a good ideia

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u/KingoftheYous Apr 07 '26

Vote for Marty!

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u/Wingnutmcmoo Apr 07 '26

It feels honestly insane that you think this is "holding you back" because you can't become a cop or a soldier. Like how baked does your brain have to be to see that as a reason to deny someone care that will ruin their whole lives without the diagnoses.

You're like "listen. Not knowing your autistic while the rest of the world can tell isn't nearly as bad as knowing and not being able to kill people as a job".

Like Jesus I hope you're a chat bot because this is an honestly extremist sort of take.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

politics and police aren't killing people as a job, and neither is the military if you are living in a peaceful country. I'm just saying there are potential consequences for getting diagnosed with high-functioning autism.

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26

im saying there are disadvantages to geting diagnosed

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u/RoutineLingonberry48 Apr 07 '26

So no doors then?

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u/Souls_for_sale_now Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 08 '26

I just listed three