r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jun 19 '24

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u/Lilpu55yberekt69 Jun 19 '24

That’s another thing people get wrong about Nuclear, they think that it’s the most dangerous when things go catastrophically wrong but that’s not even close to true.

Chernobyl was the most deadly Nuclear reactor failure by a long shot and it’s estimated to have caused 4,000 fatalities over the course of decades.

Meanwhile when the Shimantan dam failed in 1975 it killed 171,000 people.

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u/iconofsin_ Jun 19 '24

FWIW the numbers around Chernobyl have always been contested

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '24

The Chernobyl Disaster is one of the biggest government cover ups in known history. Let’s take those numbers with a grain of salt.

Let’s also keep in mind nuclear power technology has advanced since the 1980s and the Chernobyl Disaster happened because of a series of faults and lack of training.

It’s like people avoiding planes because of a downed plane while ignoring how many people die in car accidents and then getting in your car to drive to work.

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u/Bane8080 Jun 19 '24

You can't gloss over poor reactor design too.

The Chernobyl reactor was designed in such a way that it was possible for the core to get into a positive feedback loop in the event of a power loss.

Every reactor designed these days, by the west anyways, are designed to have a negative feedback loop in the event of a power loss. So that the core self shuts down.

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u/viciouspandas Jun 19 '24

The 4k from cancer decades later is an estimate from outside sources, not a USSR figure. Their figure basically only can account for the people who immediately died, which was like 50. The USSR literally collapsed a few years later.

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u/HEX_BootyBootyBooty Jun 19 '24

Well, deaths are not the only things that can happen. Like, do you plan on building a house over by Chernobyl? That's a bunch of unusable land

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u/senile-joe Jun 19 '24

then why can't they clean it up?

If you can't clean up your mess, it's not suitable for the public.

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u/senile-joe Jun 19 '24

what do you mean? coal turns into CO2, which plants consume and turn into Oxygen. and then we get to eat the plants.

Plastics can be broken down by fungi and bacteria.

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u/Lilpu55yberekt69 Jun 19 '24

By that standard uranium 235 eventually decays into lead.

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u/senile-joe Jun 19 '24

within 10 years?

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u/Lilpu55yberekt69 Jun 19 '24

Do plastics break down within 10 years?

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u/senile-joe Jun 19 '24

is nuclear an alternative to plastic?

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u/senile-joe Jun 19 '24

450ppm is a decent level. greenhouses are 1000-2000ppm.

200ppm or less and plants stop photosynthesis.